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<blockquote data-quote="Ashtagon" data-source="post: 4920290" data-attributes="member: 72335">1st level commoner (-1 modifiers on all relevant stats) vs. veteran military (let's call him a 3rd level fighter with +1 modifiers on all relevant stats)...Auto hit, auto critical, as per coup de grace rules. That's 2d4-1 damage, average 4. He probably has 21 hit points (6.5x3, round up), so he'll easily survive the basic damage. He then has to make a DC 14 (10 + damage dealt) Fort save, or die. Level bonus is +3, Con bonus is +1, so he needs to roll a 10 or better to survive - 55% chance.Way I see it, if he fails that Fort save, you got him good. If he made it, story-wise it means you made some noise in the process which caused him to wake up. The Fort save does not mean the skin on his neck was sufficiently thick and scaly to block the knife from cutting an artery. If you don't want to fluff it as him waking (although I would personally), you can say he rolls over in his sleep at exactly the wrong moment, causing your blade not to strike at the exact right point to instantly kill him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashtagon, post: 4920290, member: 72335"] 1st level commoner (-1 modifiers on all relevant stats) vs. veteran military (let's call him a 3rd level fighter with +1 modifiers on all relevant stats)... Auto hit, auto critical, as per coup de grace rules. That's 2d4-1 damage, average 4. He probably has 21 hit points (6.5x3, round up), so he'll easily survive the basic damage. He then has to make a DC 14 (10 + damage dealt) Fort save, or die. Level bonus is +3, Con bonus is +1, so he needs to roll a 10 or better to survive - 55% chance. Way I see it, if he fails that Fort save, you got him good. If he made it, story-wise it means you made some noise in the process which caused him to wake up. The Fort save does not mean the skin on his neck was sufficiently thick and scaly to block the knife from cutting an artery. If you don't want to fluff it as him waking (although I would personally), you can say he rolls over in his sleep at exactly the wrong moment, causing your blade not to strike at the exact right point to instantly kill him. [/QUOTE]

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