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Message: <blockquote data-quote="renau1g" data-source="post: 5181898" data-attributes="member: 54810">Well, KD you've played in my PbP game and I have yet to use minions (for the most part) there for the same reason as you mention. They're ok for certain scenarios, Helm's Deep-style adventure as an example, to give the PC's the feeling that they're actually doing something epic to turn the tide of a major battle. After all, Aragorn and co. were probably paragon tier around that time and orc mooks were slew by the dozens, but there were still so many. Oh, great comment about the adult bully fighting kids, you made me laugh...I just used some minions with a saving throw to avoid the damage 1/encounter (some sort of Far Realm tentacle monster) that helped a bit, but still, at best the monster took 2 shots to kill. Heck even the melee guys can just toss a javelin and take them out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> I look at them (esp. in PbP) as extra xp to help the PC's along. Oh we also used minions in a one-shot I ran, "Night of the Living Dead" where individually the zombies are weak, but they got numbers and if they grabbed you, man you were in trouble. It was fun for a bit, but yeah special circumstances and all that.</blockquote>