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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5182127" data-attributes="member: 2011">Well, it's typically 2 or 3, but 4 is not unheard of and it's not always every foe every round, but often most of the foes on many of the rounds.For example, in a 6 round encounter with 6 foes, the foes are Bloodied 3 rounds out of 6 (for example, some foes for lesser periods, some for longer). That's up to 18 foe rounds of Bloodied (out of 36). Hunter's Quarry is 6 foe rounds. Oath of Enmity is 6 foe rounds. Marked by Fighter is typically a minimum of 10 foe rounds (marked via bursts twice per encounter minimum). Marked by Swordmage is typically a minimum of 8 foe rounds (often more). Just via damage and class features and not a single power, that's a rough average of 48 foe rounds or an average of 1.33 effects on each foe spread over the entire encounter.Once we throw on powers, especially things that end on a save and can last more than a single round, it starts adding up. Combat Advantage alone from powers is available half of the time or more. That's 18 more foe rounds and the average is almost up to 2 right there. There's at least 8 more debuffs (Slow, Stun, Daze) that can be done, sometimes against multiple foes. It's fortunate that we only have one Controller and one Leader in the group.And that's just the effects on the monsters, let alone the PCs. Ongoing damage and Daze are common effects on PCs from monsters, but a few PCs often have buffs on some rounds. Heaven forbid it is a tough encounter with PCs throwing buffs or debuffs that last most of the encounter.Something as simple as Hymn of Resurgence has to have bookkeeping as to which foes got hit by it and which did not. It's Close Blast 5 which is a 9x9 area, so it may or may not hit a significant number of foes. Hymn of Resurgence could easily hit 4 foes and and add 4 foe rounds to the total. It all adds up.And I'm not even counting things like Prone (since we knock over the miniature to indicate that, so it's typically much easier). But, Prone is a status.But, I am definitely going to take your 3x5 card advice for effects on PCs. That should help some (it is unfortunate that DMs have to come up with shortcuts to handle this better, but c'est la guerre). The downside of this approach is that it is not as visible as the colored plastic rings that we put on the miniatures at the moment. We may need to do both.</blockquote>

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