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<blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9524754" data-attributes="member: 7044462">Well, at least in any game i played that involves rolls to hit and damage in combat. Like i said, if they like that, good for them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> (sidenote, i don't really like Soulsborne games). But in souls games, you die. A lot. You just don't die permanently. It's not game over- load last save. You just lose stuff and enemies respawn. Not that big of a deal, you grind, kill them again, get stuff back. It's frustrating until you get good. Then it's just a matter of patience and grind. IMHO, depends on why character is undying. I played fair bit of VtM, longest campaign with my 7th generation Toreador ( 7th gen are hard SOBs to kill )&nbsp; took span over couple of centuries in game time. I lost gear, allies, wealth, status (those revolutions are pesky things), everything possible with that character. In the end, you can rebuild and regain everything, providing you are alive and have enough time. For undying character, everything besides getting killed is just speed bump on the road.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GrimCo, post: 9524754, member: 7044462"] Well, at least in any game i played that involves rolls to hit and damage in combat. Like i said, if they like that, good for them. :D (sidenote, i don't really like Soulsborne games). But in souls games, you die. A lot. You just don't die permanently. It's not game over- load last save. You just lose stuff and enemies respawn. Not that big of a deal, you grind, kill them again, get stuff back. It's frustrating until you get good. Then it's just a matter of patience and grind. IMHO, depends on why character is undying. I played fair bit of VtM, longest campaign with my 7th generation Toreador ( 7th gen are hard SOBs to kill ) took span over couple of centuries in game time. I lost gear, allies, wealth, status (those revolutions are pesky things), everything possible with that character. In the end, you can rebuild and regain everything, providing you are alive and have enough time. For undying character, everything besides getting killed is just speed bump on the road. [/QUOTE]

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