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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 7591454" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>Greywiki.com is probably the best source for canon material, but even that has issues. Finding "canon" Greyhawk is tricky, for a couple of reasons. </p><p></p><p>First of all, players are going to disagree on what defines canon, since unlike the Forgotten Realms, after Gygax was deposed there was never a single figure to define it. Many like myself don't want to acknowledge anything post Gygax, leaving it stopped at 1985. Others accept everything from WotC, which would take it through the Greyhawk Wars and Reconstruction of 2E and include from 3E the Greyhawk Gazetteer (not Living Gazetteer) Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil and Expedition to the Ruins of Castle Greyhawk (some don't even consider this canon, since it's only partially completed). Finally there is the Living Greyhawk, which probably has the greatest amount of material available, but most consider that a separate Greyhawk from canon Greyhawk.</p><p></p><p>Second, there were 3ish series of novels written for Greyhawk. The first 2 books, written by Gygax, were intended to describe aspects of HIS Greyhawk, so it may not have been intended to by canon (a lot of Gygaxian campaigns use them, however). Rose Estes took over that series title after Gygax was deposed, but took a completely different direction (many believe that not only did she have no idea about anything in Greyhawk, but D&D in general). Gygax continued his series under a different name and publisher (changing several Greyhawk names to avoid copyright issues), where he eventually destroyed the world, since he'd rather it no longer exist than be tied to the abomination TSR turned it into. Finally WotC rebooted the novel franchise with a number of books written by different authors set in the classic adventures (most of which are Greyhawk), and they were a success IMO, but I don't know if I'd consider them canon.</p><p></p><p>Finally, Greyhawk was designed to be expanded upon by the DM, and while TSR and WotC advanced the timelines, there are still significant gaps in the setting that various DMs have filled in and put online (see the Canonfire websie for examples). This means that probably about half of what is online isn't canon, even though it may look like it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: White Plumb Mountain mentions the dracolich Draogtha, which I think is the first named dragon in Greyhawk. It was printed during Gygax's reign, and is official Greyhawk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 7591454, member: 6775477"] Greywiki.com is probably the best source for canon material, but even that has issues. Finding "canon" Greyhawk is tricky, for a couple of reasons. First of all, players are going to disagree on what defines canon, since unlike the Forgotten Realms, after Gygax was deposed there was never a single figure to define it. Many like myself don't want to acknowledge anything post Gygax, leaving it stopped at 1985. Others accept everything from WotC, which would take it through the Greyhawk Wars and Reconstruction of 2E and include from 3E the Greyhawk Gazetteer (not Living Gazetteer) Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil and Expedition to the Ruins of Castle Greyhawk (some don't even consider this canon, since it's only partially completed). Finally there is the Living Greyhawk, which probably has the greatest amount of material available, but most consider that a separate Greyhawk from canon Greyhawk. Second, there were 3ish series of novels written for Greyhawk. The first 2 books, written by Gygax, were intended to describe aspects of HIS Greyhawk, so it may not have been intended to by canon (a lot of Gygaxian campaigns use them, however). Rose Estes took over that series title after Gygax was deposed, but took a completely different direction (many believe that not only did she have no idea about anything in Greyhawk, but D&D in general). Gygax continued his series under a different name and publisher (changing several Greyhawk names to avoid copyright issues), where he eventually destroyed the world, since he'd rather it no longer exist than be tied to the abomination TSR turned it into. Finally WotC rebooted the novel franchise with a number of books written by different authors set in the classic adventures (most of which are Greyhawk), and they were a success IMO, but I don't know if I'd consider them canon. Finally, Greyhawk was designed to be expanded upon by the DM, and while TSR and WotC advanced the timelines, there are still significant gaps in the setting that various DMs have filled in and put online (see the Canonfire websie for examples). This means that probably about half of what is online isn't canon, even though it may look like it is. Edit: White Plumb Mountain mentions the dracolich Draogtha, which I think is the first named dragon in Greyhawk. It was printed during Gygax's reign, and is official Greyhawk. [/QUOTE]
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