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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 5221445" data-attributes="member: 5">Indeed (and well said all around).  One of the biggest of the PR blunders of WotC in recent years was the blanket removal of PDFs from the market based on their citing of newer books being pirated in some quarters.  There inability to convert some fans to the newest edition was a foregone conclusion but the ending of their relationship with those past fans by cutting off sales of PDFs of previous editions was simply foolish.  I'm not their target for 4E (I periodically play and sometimes pick up a product that is more edition neutral) but I was someone who would still purchase older PDFs.  I would do this just to read and enjoy them, since I do not run older edition games, although I do play in some at conventions.  I'm still perplexed by the decision and what was gained by no longer selling the older edition PDFs.  It will be fascinating to someday hear the thought process behind the decision (and you know that someday someone will spill the beans, even if only anonymously, regarding who made the various PR blunders).Anyway, grognard is still, to me, the traditional gaming definition of a pre-RPG wargamer (though the older wargamers I know would not include any wargamer who since took up RPGs as amoung the ranks of grognards).  From my POV, any RPGer who shows signs of grognardishness is termed a neo-grog.</blockquote>