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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 5223965" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>um, wow, I wasn't trying to create such angst ya know folks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>as said, to me, liking an older edition, and being a "grognard" <em>who won't try anything else fairly</em>, are totally different things!</p><p>if you like 1st, 2nd or 3rd, fine, no skin off my nose, it's all D&D to me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> That's <em>normal</em>. That's just being a "1st edition, 2nd ed or 3rd ed fan".</p><p></p><p>But decrying and attacking something 'cause it's new is just crazy, that is worthy of being called a "grognard", 'cause it has been <em>earned</em>, lol.</p><p></p><p>however, others use the term "grognard" in different fashion, again, as said. To them it just means "Old school version", no denegration.</p><p></p><p>Every edition will spawn more "old schoolers", who preffer "their fave version". This is not a bad thing!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>however, WOTC needs to cater to them, so yes stopping the pdfs etc was hugely damaging, but we also need to try and stop folk retreating into "bunker down to hell with new fangled stuff!" outlooks. </p><p>Not aimed at Enworlders, but ya know what I mean, I get so exasperated when some berk moans about a new edition he hasn't even given a fair shot at, or played with jerks who ruined it for him.</p><p></p><p>D&D is NOT going to stop at 4th ed, 5th or hopefully 100th edition! Why should it? It's a living growing thing in effect.</p><p>new generations want to play it. the company to survive must keep selling new versions, and folk come up with new tweaks all the time.</p><p></p><p>if folk <em>and </em>WOTC insist on playing "Only their version!" well, groups will get smaller..and smaller...</p><p></p><p></p><p>now, who wouldn't want to see a new WOTC-official 1st ed...Fiend Folio II ?</p><p>2nd ed updated DMG with the *gaming hints and tips for the DM* from the 4th ed DMG 1 and 2, which are actually damn good and apply to any edition, hm?</p><p>etc <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 5223965, member: 19083"] um, wow, I wasn't trying to create such angst ya know folks :p as said, to me, liking an older edition, and being a "grognard" [I]who won't try anything else fairly[/I], are totally different things! if you like 1st, 2nd or 3rd, fine, no skin off my nose, it's all D&D to me :) That's [I]normal[/I]. That's just being a "1st edition, 2nd ed or 3rd ed fan". But decrying and attacking something 'cause it's new is just crazy, that is worthy of being called a "grognard", 'cause it has been [I]earned[/I], lol. however, others use the term "grognard" in different fashion, again, as said. To them it just means "Old school version", no denegration. Every edition will spawn more "old schoolers", who preffer "their fave version". This is not a bad thing!! :) however, WOTC needs to cater to them, so yes stopping the pdfs etc was hugely damaging, but we also need to try and stop folk retreating into "bunker down to hell with new fangled stuff!" outlooks. Not aimed at Enworlders, but ya know what I mean, I get so exasperated when some berk moans about a new edition he hasn't even given a fair shot at, or played with jerks who ruined it for him. D&D is NOT going to stop at 4th ed, 5th or hopefully 100th edition! Why should it? It's a living growing thing in effect. new generations want to play it. the company to survive must keep selling new versions, and folk come up with new tweaks all the time. if folk [I]and [/I]WOTC insist on playing "Only their version!" well, groups will get smaller..and smaller... now, who wouldn't want to see a new WOTC-official 1st ed...Fiend Folio II ? 2nd ed updated DMG with the *gaming hints and tips for the DM* from the 4th ed DMG 1 and 2, which are actually damn good and apply to any edition, hm? etc :) [/QUOTE]
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