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<blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4238441" data-attributes="member: 20004">Interesting.&nbsp; Without actually seeing the adventure, I'm not sure what the complaint over the stat blocks and tactical setup was.&nbsp; From reading other notes in this thread, I'm guessing they've stuck with a similar approach to what they did with the Ravenloft 3E adventure, Demonweb Pits, Eyes of the Lich Queen, etc?&nbsp;&nbsp; I've never been sure about that format.&nbsp; Sometimes it just gets me confused when things in the regular section don't seem to match what is described in the tactical encounter section, plus there is all the flipping back and forth when reading through the adventure.&nbsp; Or perhaps they've done something different?&nbsp; I haven't actually run any of the adventures with the new format so perhaps it works well in actual play.&nbsp; It just never quite worked (for me)&nbsp; when reading the adventure.As for how open minded or closed minded the original poster was, this is all kind of silly.&nbsp;&nbsp; Essentially the post boiled down to he was a strong doubter of the merits of 4E but was secretly hoping to be converted in some small way, but wasn't.&nbsp; What's the reason to get upset about that?&nbsp; As for using trailers to pre-judge whether you want to invest the money (and time) in a movie, what's the problem with that?&nbsp; 9 times out of 10 a trailer oversells rather than undersells a movie.&nbsp; If the trailer seems bad to you, odds are you won't like the movie.My own plans have been to pick up Keep on the Shadowfell even though I have not liked most of what I've read or heard about 4E just in case all of that is somehow wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp; I fully expect this adventure to capture the essence of the new game.&nbsp; If not, then it was a poor decision to release this particular adventure before the rule set with a set of quick play rules.&nbsp;&nbsp; While I have pretty firm plans to continue play with 3.5 and then switch to Pathfinder for the next while, I still might pick up the main 4E rules if Keep on the Shadowfell seems interesting.&nbsp; If not, it will be a while longer before I pick up the core rules, but I expect I will eventually get them just because I'm a&nbsp; bit of a D&amp;D completest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zil, post: 4238441, member: 20004"] Interesting. Without actually seeing the adventure, I'm not sure what the complaint over the stat blocks and tactical setup was. From reading other notes in this thread, I'm guessing they've stuck with a similar approach to what they did with the Ravenloft 3E adventure, Demonweb Pits, Eyes of the Lich Queen, etc? I've never been sure about that format. Sometimes it just gets me confused when things in the regular section don't seem to match what is described in the tactical encounter section, plus there is all the flipping back and forth when reading through the adventure. Or perhaps they've done something different? I haven't actually run any of the adventures with the new format so perhaps it works well in actual play. It just never quite worked (for me) when reading the adventure. As for how open minded or closed minded the original poster was, this is all kind of silly. Essentially the post boiled down to he was a strong doubter of the merits of 4E but was secretly hoping to be converted in some small way, but wasn't. What's the reason to get upset about that? As for using trailers to pre-judge whether you want to invest the money (and time) in a movie, what's the problem with that? 9 times out of 10 a trailer oversells rather than undersells a movie. If the trailer seems bad to you, odds are you won't like the movie. My own plans have been to pick up Keep on the Shadowfell even though I have not liked most of what I've read or heard about 4E just in case all of that is somehow wrong. I fully expect this adventure to capture the essence of the new game. If not, then it was a poor decision to release this particular adventure before the rule set with a set of quick play rules. While I have pretty firm plans to continue play with 3.5 and then switch to Pathfinder for the next while, I still might pick up the main 4E rules if Keep on the Shadowfell seems interesting. If not, it will be a while longer before I pick up the core rules, but I expect I will eventually get them just because I'm a bit of a D&D completest. [/QUOTE]

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