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<blockquote data-quote="AndrewRogue" data-source="post: 4243291" data-attributes="member: 60448">But... unless you were a class who had the ability to do everything awesomely at once, you already had a &quot;role&quot; that defined what your class would function most optimally doing. Your two-hand fighter with Power Attack was already charging low AC targets to blow them away with explosive damage. The rogue was already avoiding heavy hitters and diving into flanks to gain his sneak attack. The Wizard and Cleric are using their defined spell list to do whatever they are supposed to do.Could you perhaps elaborate how the situation is any different now? About the only possible argument I can see is the concept that, because of role, class design is a little more streamlined, but even this argument is inherently faulty because every class has ALWAYS had some degree of streamlining about what they could and couldn't do. Any character not built as a jack of all trades (which tended to suck anyway, really) was FURTHER specialized.So yeah. Hash this out with me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AndrewRogue, post: 4243291, member: 60448"] But... unless you were a class who had the ability to do everything awesomely at once, you already had a "role" that defined what your class would function most optimally doing. Your two-hand fighter with Power Attack was already charging low AC targets to blow them away with explosive damage. The rogue was already avoiding heavy hitters and diving into flanks to gain his sneak attack. The Wizard and Cleric are using their defined spell list to do whatever they are supposed to do. Could you perhaps elaborate how the situation is any different now? About the only possible argument I can see is the concept that, because of role, class design is a little more streamlined, but even this argument is inherently faulty because every class has ALWAYS had some degree of streamlining about what they could and couldn't do. Any character not built as a jack of all trades (which tended to suck anyway, really) was FURTHER specialized. So yeah. Hash this out with me. [/QUOTE]

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