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<blockquote data-quote="carmachu" data-source="post: 4249996" data-attributes="member: 34534"><p>Judging by various reviews of it, even from very pro-4e people. Their words, keep in mind, for a $30 price tag(or a bit cheaper on amazon):</p><p></p><p>"I really think the adventure is generic. Come on, arent we all about done fighting kobolds for goodness sake. There are ways to spice things up a bit. The dungeon is generic. The themes basic. There is no real interaction of note in the village. It is a very underwhelming adventure."</p><p></p><p>"The "adventure book" doesnt have a cover, it is just saddle stitched cheesy flimsy paper. Really disappointing. For a company that has been all about usability at the game table for 4E, that was a MAJOR disappointment for me."</p><p></p><p>"The quality of the paper is annoying at this cost level. Smudges all over the place and boy does it pick up finger prints. "</p><p></p><p>"There is not alot of content there. Very little in the way of roleplaying. Just lots of encounters strung together. Its like a bad movie script. Does very little to show off the great things about 4E, which I think is a shame. Clearly, the DMG wasnt done when they wrote this thing. The DMG has a real cool trap stat block. This adventure doesnt use it. Rushed. Weak. Unoriginal. Flimsy. Linear. Forced."</p><p></p><p></p><p>minor one:</p><p></p><p>"Mini intensive. Okay, maybe it's me but if I'm in charge of Dungeons of Dread, I make sure that the starter set has all of the pregenerated players and major bad guys as opposed to some interesting figs that really don't matter to anything outside of themselves. The first encounter is with eight enemies. This doesn't count the PC's so we're up to 13 minis for the first encounter. "</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those are just some I've read, for your VERY FIRST product out the door as a showcase 4e. Its not a product that seems to jump out at me, grab me and say "WOW!"</p><p></p><p>Forget that it doesnt have complete 4e rules. Or reference....its the first 4e product that showcases it. Its quality seems subpar from the reviews thus far as a product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="carmachu, post: 4249996, member: 34534"] Judging by various reviews of it, even from very pro-4e people. Their words, keep in mind, for a $30 price tag(or a bit cheaper on amazon): "I really think the adventure is generic. Come on, arent we all about done fighting kobolds for goodness sake. There are ways to spice things up a bit. The dungeon is generic. The themes basic. There is no real interaction of note in the village. It is a very underwhelming adventure." "The "adventure book" doesnt have a cover, it is just saddle stitched cheesy flimsy paper. Really disappointing. For a company that has been all about usability at the game table for 4E, that was a MAJOR disappointment for me." "The quality of the paper is annoying at this cost level. Smudges all over the place and boy does it pick up finger prints. " "There is not alot of content there. Very little in the way of roleplaying. Just lots of encounters strung together. Its like a bad movie script. Does very little to show off the great things about 4E, which I think is a shame. Clearly, the DMG wasnt done when they wrote this thing. The DMG has a real cool trap stat block. This adventure doesnt use it. Rushed. Weak. Unoriginal. Flimsy. Linear. Forced." minor one: "Mini intensive. Okay, maybe it's me but if I'm in charge of Dungeons of Dread, I make sure that the starter set has all of the pregenerated players and major bad guys as opposed to some interesting figs that really don't matter to anything outside of themselves. The first encounter is with eight enemies. This doesn't count the PC's so we're up to 13 minis for the first encounter. " Those are just some I've read, for your VERY FIRST product out the door as a showcase 4e. Its not a product that seems to jump out at me, grab me and say "WOW!" Forget that it doesnt have complete 4e rules. Or reference....its the first 4e product that showcases it. Its quality seems subpar from the reviews thus far as a product. [/QUOTE]
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