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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 3331245" data-attributes="member: 4779">Hey!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And that must stink, living down there in Redskins country....  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I can't really blame Coughlin for anything to do with Eli Manning.  Typically, the head coach has much less of an impact on a QB's development these days than the offensive coordinator or the QB coach, both who are new this year (well, one is but you know what I mean).  I didn't like the Coughlin signing when he came on 3 years ago.  I wouldn't have minded him getting fired last year but there aren't any coaches available right now that are much better, ya know?  Mangini was a diamond in the rough for the Jets and there weren't many promising assistants out there that really looked good.  The only 2 coaches that I would have been happy with were Cowher (not coming to the Giants) or Weis (not leaving Notre Dame at the moment but he would love the Giants' job).And that said, I hated the offensive and defensive coordinators he brought on initially.  If he doesn't get it done this season, meaning obvious development of Eli and less penalties I think he's gone.  And some of the blame has to be put on the players, too.  Burress and Shockey need to shut up and Eli needs to step up the call them out when they try to show him up (throwing hands in the air, barking at him after a bad throw, etc).The funny part about the Giants is that they haven't had a defense that has stepped up since Parcells left.  When is the last time you remember the defense getting a key stop in a big game?  Honestly, I'll be glad when Strahan is gone now that Tiki isn't here anymore.  The old guard couldn't win with Fassel and they are doing the same amount of yapping until Coughlin.This team (with the current crop of established stars) I think was a bad fit for Tom.  Strahan, Tiki and Shockey are bigger than the team and were allowed to mouth off all the time.  They've been doing it too long and Tom (or any other head coach) isn't going to change that.  Look at Parcell's in Dallas - his team was just as undisciplined and it wasn't just TO.I can't really speak to his Jacksonville experience.  What I do know is that his team did very well in a short amount of time.  If Tom had his choice, I bet he would have never signed Burress.  He did turn Tiki around and he was great in the games.  Never showed up anyone and singlehandedly won many games for the Giants and was the entire offense more times than I can count.  As for Shockey, it a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.  He's the best TE they have and a fierce competitor.  Play him and you get all the BS that goes with him, bench him and you lose the best player you have at that position and weaken the team.Honestly, Eli has to step up and get those two guys in line.  He has to make the Giants his team.  With Tiki gone he may be able to do that a bit even though they may win a few less games at this point.  Eli will get at least two more years as a starter without having to worry about being benched.  The Giants made too much of an investment (money + draft) in him to not give him as much time as possible to develop.And I hate to blame injuries, but I really think if the Giants were healthy (or at least had Petigout and Toomer) they could have made the SB, considering how terrible the NFC was.</blockquote>

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