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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9512816" data-attributes="member: 59057">If you want to know how to do stealth, just ask me. I jave used it very successful with 2024 rules...ok... you actually don't need to ask.Make a stealth check.If you beat 15, you become de facto invisible as long as you try not to be seen.If you beat passive perception of enemies, you possibly surprise them.So assume you roll a 13. Enemy Passive Percepion scores are 12 and 16. You surprise the ones with 12 but not those with 16. You start combat visible and don't roll initiative with advantage. Depending on the actions, the enemies woth PP 16 might automatocally find you.If you rolled a 15, you start combat invisible. But still don't surprise those with 16 PP. If you rolled a 17, you are invisible and all enemies are surprised.</blockquote>