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<blockquote data-quote="Retros_x" data-source="post: 9514287" data-attributes="member: 7033171">Leaving the plate at home doesn't mean going butt naked. Also again, if the tanky player doesn't feel good with that AC drop - then they don't sneak! Let them stay behind second rank while the stealthy ones are scouting or preparing an ambush.I don't understand what you are arguing even at the moment, what do you want? Complain about the 2024 rules? Thats how they are now.Btw your percentages are off. If you succeed in hide, you count as invisible as long as you stay out line of sight, no need to reroll for every guard. Also not the whole party gets discovered - there is no group check as you asserted yourself, so there is no group failure - only the failed character gets spotted.And even then it doesn't mean combat starts immediately. Guards could come closer to inspect the noise in the bush, to hold the intruder, ask them to identify themselves to check if they have authority, run away to ring an alarm bell or get reinforcement whatever. But this is of course not rules but DM style and running the game. But when you want to support stealth approaches in your game you should consider these.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retros_x, post: 9514287, member: 7033171"] Leaving the plate at home doesn't mean going butt naked. Also again, if the tanky player doesn't feel good with that AC drop - then they don't sneak! Let them stay behind second rank while the stealthy ones are scouting or preparing an ambush. I don't understand what you are arguing even at the moment, what do you want? Complain about the 2024 rules? Thats how they are now. Btw your percentages are off. If you succeed in hide, you count as invisible as long as you stay out line of sight, no need to reroll for every guard. Also not the whole party gets discovered - there is no group check as you asserted yourself, so there is no group failure - only the failed character gets spotted. And even then it doesn't mean combat starts immediately. Guards could come closer to inspect the noise in the bush, to hold the intruder, ask them to identify themselves to check if they have authority, run away to ring an alarm bell or get reinforcement whatever. But this is of course not rules but DM style and running the game. But when you want to support stealth approaches in your game you should consider these. [/QUOTE]

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