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<blockquote data-quote="wagenejm" data-source="post: 4969991" data-attributes="member: 70632">If this is a regular gaming group, I don't see any reason to have such rules in place. Rules like that are going to suck the fun out of the group and encourage people not to show up and want to leave early. If my gaming group were to introduce rules like this, I would think they were playing a prank.First off, I strongly encourage you to read the sections of the DMG and DMG2 concerning the different player types. Identify the players in your group that fit each type and try to build on their strengths rather than penalize their weaknesses.That said you absolutely CANNOT force your players to roleplay. In my group, we have players who are somewhat shy about roleplaying. What we've done is encourage those players to get into roleplaying by offering a &quot;token&quot; for good roleplaying descriptions that make it into the after-adventure story. These tokens can be turned in for a free +2 to any roll or a free saving throw attempt. What this has done is brought those players out of their shells some and while roleplaying doesn't always come easily, they make an effort to try now, because they can receive a benefit from it, but aren't made to feel like it's being forced onto them.I see in a later post you mention players having poor tactical decisions and failing to properly update their sheets. When this happens, your best bet may be to just let them suffer their own mistakes. A PC being knocked unconscious a few times, or being killed outright and causing the remaining players to have to resurrect the dead PC will cause the players to police their own actions a little better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wagenejm, post: 4969991, member: 70632"] If this is a regular gaming group, I don't see any reason to have such rules in place. Rules like that are going to suck the fun out of the group and encourage people not to show up and want to leave early. If my gaming group were to introduce rules like this, I would think they were playing a prank. First off, I strongly encourage you to read the sections of the DMG and DMG2 concerning the different player types. Identify the players in your group that fit each type and try to build on their strengths rather than penalize their weaknesses. That said you absolutely [U][B]CANNOT[/B][/U] force your players to roleplay. In my group, we have players who are somewhat shy about roleplaying. What we've done is encourage those players to get into roleplaying by offering a "token" for good roleplaying descriptions that make it into the after-adventure story. These tokens can be turned in for a free +2 to any roll or a free saving throw attempt. What this has done is brought those players out of their shells some and while roleplaying doesn't always come easily, they make an effort to try now, because they can receive a benefit from it, but aren't made to feel like it's being forced onto them. I see in a later post you mention players having poor tactical decisions and failing to properly update their sheets. When this happens, your best bet may be to just let them suffer their own mistakes. A PC being knocked unconscious a few times, or being killed outright and causing the remaining players to have to resurrect the dead PC will cause the players to police their own actions a little better. [/QUOTE]

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