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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 8578183" data-attributes="member: 6787503">I think the story I heard was that it was edited out of the books to save space but left on the DM’s screen. I wouldn’t make the argument that it’s a core part of the rule set but rather tools I can use to fulfill my role as DM in describing the environment and, in the case of combat, determining surprise and establishing positions, things that might otherwise be based on DM prep which I try to keep as light as possible. I’ve posted that quote three times in this thread. The second time I included the opening clause of the sentence, i.e. “Group checks don’t come up very often...”, because I felt it was relevant to the point I was making which was that a party moving stealthily, the situation presented in the OP, would seem to occur too frequently to qualify. At least it does in my games.</blockquote>