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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6104824" data-attributes="member: 94389">Hierarchal similarities exist between classes. Here is my take on the hierarchal structure of these similarities, with a nod towards D&amp;D Next:&nbsp;CLASS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Martial (Uses Martial Dice Mechanic)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DEFENSIVE, OFFENSIVE, skillful (DOs) – Variants based on TraditionFighter – Variant Traditions: Great Weapon, Sword and Board, Two Weapon,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DEFENSIVE, offensive, SKILLFUL (DoS) – Variants based on Ethos&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Warlord – Variant Ethos: Paladin, Blackguard, WardenDefensive, OFFENSIVE, SKILLFUL (dOS) – Variants based on EnvironmentRogue – Variant Environment: Ranger, Archer, Barbarian (yay Conan Fans), Fencer (One Handed)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Magical (Uses Spellcasting Mechanic)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DEFENSIVE, OFFENSIVE, skillful (DOs) – Variants based on TraditionWizard – Variant Traditions: Pyromancer, Sorcerer, Enchanter, Necromancer, etc.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DEFENSIVE, offensive, SKILLFUL (DoS) – Variants based on Ethos&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cleric – Variant Ethos: Clerics of Deity/IdealDefensive, OFFENSIVE, SKILLFUL (dOS) – Variants based on Environment&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Druid – Variant Environments: Witch, Warlock, Shapeshifter&nbsp;No obviously some people would take umbrage where I put classes. But the General outline follows three core pillars: Defensive, Offensive, Skillful. Each class has 2 of those pillars as a strength (all caps) and one as simply average. Historically, a class that was DoS (DEFENSIVE, offensive, and SKILLFUL)&nbsp; was Cleric. Clerics vary by Ethos (ie which deity they worship). I asked myself, “what martial classes share either variation in ethos or were also DoS?” I think the answer to that question is clearly Paladin.&nbsp;DEFENSIVE is pretty clear: Armor for Martial character, defensive spells for spellcasters (whether healing, buffs, or more direct Mage Armor)&nbsp;OFFENSIVE is pretty clear too: The capacity to hit and do damage.&nbsp;SKILLFUL is broad based. It could be traditional skills (Jump, Swim, Knowledge, etc), Features such as Backstab, or Maneuvers, or even spells that mimic those or do something else (Knock, Teleport).&nbsp;Why do this? Well, for starters, We can match mechanics. All martial classes use Martial Dice, eg. However, I would like to see new and Unique mechanics for Each of the 6 categories. In addition you could then have a unique “boon” to each variant.The “Magical dOS” category (druid) could have a “Channel Spirit” mechanic. This mechanic would be how this class category is unique. While Druids might Channel a Spirit of the Bear, and a Warlock might Channel the Spirit of Cthulu, the mechanic would be the same. Similarly, A Great Weapon Fighter uses maneuvers, but the Blackguard with a Greataxe relies on spell-like powers. I.e the Fighter uses a Cleave maneuver to damage enemies swarming around him while the Blackguard activates his Aura of Decay to damage his enemies.&nbsp;Barbarian is a rogue? Well, ok, seems weird, but I have a mechanic in mind, like the Magical dOS. Rather than Channel Spirit, Martial dOS has a FOCUS. Barbians Focus Rage, where a Rogue would Focus Knacks and Archer would Focus Shot, etc&nbsp;At this point I am rambling. If you are still reading, please don’t smash forehead on keyboard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6104824, member: 94389"] Hierarchal similarities exist between classes. Here is my take on the hierarchal structure of these similarities, with a nod towards D&D Next: CLASS Martial (Uses Martial Dice Mechanic) DEFENSIVE, OFFENSIVE, skillful (DOs) – Variants based on Tradition Fighter – Variant Traditions: Great Weapon, Sword and Board, Two Weapon, DEFENSIVE, offensive, SKILLFUL (DoS) – Variants based on Ethos Warlord – Variant Ethos: Paladin, Blackguard, Warden Defensive, OFFENSIVE, SKILLFUL (dOS) – Variants based on Environment Rogue – Variant Environment: Ranger, Archer, Barbarian (yay Conan Fans), Fencer (One Handed) Magical (Uses Spellcasting Mechanic) DEFENSIVE, OFFENSIVE, skillful (DOs) – Variants based on Tradition Wizard – Variant Traditions: Pyromancer, Sorcerer, Enchanter, Necromancer, etc. DEFENSIVE, offensive, SKILLFUL (DoS) – Variants based on Ethos Cleric – Variant Ethos: Clerics of Deity/Ideal Defensive, OFFENSIVE, SKILLFUL (dOS) – Variants based on Environment Druid – Variant Environments: Witch, Warlock, Shapeshifter No obviously some people would take umbrage where I put classes. But the General outline follows three core pillars: Defensive, Offensive, Skillful. Each class has 2 of those pillars as a strength (all caps) and one as simply average. Historically, a class that was DoS (DEFENSIVE, offensive, and SKILLFUL) was Cleric. Clerics vary by Ethos (ie which deity they worship). I asked myself, “what martial classes share either variation in ethos or were also DoS?” I think the answer to that question is clearly Paladin. DEFENSIVE is pretty clear: Armor for Martial character, defensive spells for spellcasters (whether healing, buffs, or more direct Mage Armor) OFFENSIVE is pretty clear too: The capacity to hit and do damage. SKILLFUL is broad based. It could be traditional skills (Jump, Swim, Knowledge, etc), Features such as Backstab, or Maneuvers, or even spells that mimic those or do something else (Knock, Teleport). Why do this? Well, for starters, We can match mechanics. All martial classes use Martial Dice, eg. However, I would like to see new and Unique mechanics for Each of the 6 categories. In addition you could then have a unique “boon” to each variant. The “Magical dOS” category (druid) could have a “Channel Spirit” mechanic. This mechanic would be how this class category is unique. While Druids might Channel a Spirit of the Bear, and a Warlock might Channel the Spirit of Cthulu, the mechanic would be the same. Similarly, A Great Weapon Fighter uses maneuvers, but the Blackguard with a Greataxe relies on spell-like powers. I.e the Fighter uses a Cleave maneuver to damage enemies swarming around him while the Blackguard activates his Aura of Decay to damage his enemies. Barbarian is a rogue? Well, ok, seems weird, but I have a mechanic in mind, like the Magical dOS. Rather than Channel Spirit, Martial dOS has a FOCUS. Barbians Focus Rage, where a Rogue would Focus Knacks and Archer would Focus Shot, etc At this point I am rambling. If you are still reading, please don’t smash forehead on keyboard. [/QUOTE]

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