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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 1217020" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>So the 2nd layout occurs AFTER the manuscript is completed. I don't understand why this is a problem...is there some pdf publisher requirement that the product be hurled out the door within 5 minutes of completion? If that can't be done, then be organized about the corrections. Make a list. Decide on an interval between corrections -- say one week. Every week, sit down and go through your list of corrections, putting a check beside each one as you finish it. Then do the same for the other version.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You make money on pdfs? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>2 points, I think. 1- You're not doing an entirely new layout. You're revising an existing one. You don't have to recreate any style aspects; they just need to be resituated in the document. 2 - Compared to the amount of time you spent writing and creating the manuscript, is doing a second layout really a significant time drain?</p><p></p><p>Also, and this is directed to publishers who do a quick, crappy print version, what your product says to consumers is "I'm happy doing a half-assed job." That's an incredibly stupid thing to say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like what I've seen of your layouts. Straightforward and easy to understand, not complex or heavy. Good text density -- I don't feel like I'm wasting paper.</p><p></p><p>rant warning...!</p><p></p><p>I LIKE pdfs. I WANT the pdf market to succeed. But this thread keeps coming up..."how do we make more people like pdfs", and when someone says "try this", it's the same outcry every time..."oh no, that takes TIME". I buy a pdf, and it's got crappy editing, or crappy layout, or isn't very functional...it boils down to the same broad statement. Low quality. Quality MATTERS. Yes, quality takes time. That's always been the deal. Publishers want the quick bang, and they hurl the product out to RPGNow. But unless you're Monte Cook, you're going to get less bang than you spent in bucks no matter what, so take the extra time and do a kickass job on EVERYTHING. Add bookmarks. Add a screen version, or a print version. And for God's sake, DON'T use 12-pnt font!!!</p><p></p><p>Argh.</p><p>Nell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 1217020, member: 70"] So the 2nd layout occurs AFTER the manuscript is completed. I don't understand why this is a problem...is there some pdf publisher requirement that the product be hurled out the door within 5 minutes of completion? If that can't be done, then be organized about the corrections. Make a list. Decide on an interval between corrections -- say one week. Every week, sit down and go through your list of corrections, putting a check beside each one as you finish it. Then do the same for the other version. You make money on pdfs? ;) 2 points, I think. 1- You're not doing an entirely new layout. You're revising an existing one. You don't have to recreate any style aspects; they just need to be resituated in the document. 2 - Compared to the amount of time you spent writing and creating the manuscript, is doing a second layout really a significant time drain? Also, and this is directed to publishers who do a quick, crappy print version, what your product says to consumers is "I'm happy doing a half-assed job." That's an incredibly stupid thing to say. I like what I've seen of your layouts. Straightforward and easy to understand, not complex or heavy. Good text density -- I don't feel like I'm wasting paper. rant warning...! I LIKE pdfs. I WANT the pdf market to succeed. But this thread keeps coming up..."how do we make more people like pdfs", and when someone says "try this", it's the same outcry every time..."oh no, that takes TIME". I buy a pdf, and it's got crappy editing, or crappy layout, or isn't very functional...it boils down to the same broad statement. Low quality. Quality MATTERS. Yes, quality takes time. That's always been the deal. Publishers want the quick bang, and they hurl the product out to RPGNow. But unless you're Monte Cook, you're going to get less bang than you spent in bucks no matter what, so take the extra time and do a kickass job on EVERYTHING. Add bookmarks. Add a screen version, or a print version. And for God's sake, DON'T use 12-pnt font!!! Argh. Nell. [/QUOTE]
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