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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 1877925" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>I'm watching the end of Return of the King, and I'm just frustrated at the small mistakes. The trilogy was so good, up until the last hour or so. Then it was just pretty good, with lots of awkward moments that ruin the drama for me. Maybe the extended edition will help, but here's my list of irks:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Steward of Gondor sprinting a quarter mile, while on fire, just so he can plummet from the top of Gondor. It would've been better if he'd just collapsed on the pyre.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sam <em>not</em> getting to put on the ring and kick ass while invisible, just because in the first movie they decided that Sauron immediately knows just where you are when you put on the ring. It's just not as interesting to have the Orcs and Goblins killing each other off again.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One too many of Sam's "C'mon Mr. Frodo, we can make it" moments. Toward the end, instead of us seeing Frodo's burden (as we had earlier), he just seems like a wuss. If he were spasming, spitting up blood, and if Sam were just as injured and kinda emaciated, then yeah, I'd be cool with it. But as is, there's too much pep talk, not enough Hobbit action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wow, they actually skipped Aragorn finally taking command of Gondor. I mean, it's the Return of the King, and he never addresses the city to tell them, "Hey, I've returned."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Time problems. Why'd they leave in Theoden's line that it'll take 3 days to reach Gondor, when it actually only takes them one? A simple edit would've caught that.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Merry apparently gets flung across the battlefield after stabbing the Witch-King. How do you explain why he's lying <em>under an Orc</em> next to an oliphant when Pippin finds him?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Anticlimactic battle of Aragorn vs. the troll at the gates of Mordor. In the movie it's briefly played up as if it matters, but really, do we expect the King to die to a troll, even an armored one? Really, at this point, all the duels that need to be done have been done. We should've just seen Aragorn cleaving through enemies until a gaggle of Orcs leap upon him, grappling him. He should fight like a lion against a group of hyenas, slowly being worn down by the overwhelming numbers, until at just the last moment, Frodo saves the day.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And the one that most irks me. Inviso-Frodo, at the end. They'd already established the <em>really cool</em> visuals of the gray, windswept world that appears when you put on the ring. It was cool when the Ringwraith stabbed Frodo on Weathertop, so why didn't they use it at the end of Return of the King? Why did they have Gollum swinging around in mid-air, looking goofy, when they could've shown some actual struggle, seeming epic because we're in the invisible world again?</li> </ul><p></p><p>Honestly, I think the rest of the movie is top-notch, and I hope a few of the deleted scenes will help the mood. Particularly the mouth of Sauron, which makes the end fight with Aragorn and the army actually have emotional resonance. But the theatrical release has a few too many moments that were handled poorly.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and one last thing. From a storytelling perspective, I always wanted Gollum to fall into the lava just as he bites of the ring, as a direct result of him getting it. The little dance he does and the embellishing chorus that accompanies it was too much for me. I wanted somebody to be a hero, even if they had Gollum fall and Frodo reach for him, coming to his senses at the last moment, trying to save Smeagol.</p><p></p><p>*sigh*</p><p></p><p>Well, I just missed all of Liv Tyler, so I suppose I should go see the Shire.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 1877925, member: 63"] I'm watching the end of Return of the King, and I'm just frustrated at the small mistakes. The trilogy was so good, up until the last hour or so. Then it was just pretty good, with lots of awkward moments that ruin the drama for me. Maybe the extended edition will help, but here's my list of irks: [list][*]The Steward of Gondor sprinting a quarter mile, while on fire, just so he can plummet from the top of Gondor. It would've been better if he'd just collapsed on the pyre. [*]Sam [i]not[/i] getting to put on the ring and kick ass while invisible, just because in the first movie they decided that Sauron immediately knows just where you are when you put on the ring. It's just not as interesting to have the Orcs and Goblins killing each other off again. [*]One too many of Sam's "C'mon Mr. Frodo, we can make it" moments. Toward the end, instead of us seeing Frodo's burden (as we had earlier), he just seems like a wuss. If he were spasming, spitting up blood, and if Sam were just as injured and kinda emaciated, then yeah, I'd be cool with it. But as is, there's too much pep talk, not enough Hobbit action. [*]Wow, they actually skipped Aragorn finally taking command of Gondor. I mean, it's the Return of the King, and he never addresses the city to tell them, "Hey, I've returned." [*]Time problems. Why'd they leave in Theoden's line that it'll take 3 days to reach Gondor, when it actually only takes them one? A simple edit would've caught that. [*]Merry apparently gets flung across the battlefield after stabbing the Witch-King. How do you explain why he's lying [i]under an Orc[/i] next to an oliphant when Pippin finds him? [*]Anticlimactic battle of Aragorn vs. the troll at the gates of Mordor. In the movie it's briefly played up as if it matters, but really, do we expect the King to die to a troll, even an armored one? Really, at this point, all the duels that need to be done have been done. We should've just seen Aragorn cleaving through enemies until a gaggle of Orcs leap upon him, grappling him. He should fight like a lion against a group of hyenas, slowly being worn down by the overwhelming numbers, until at just the last moment, Frodo saves the day. [*]And the one that most irks me. Inviso-Frodo, at the end. They'd already established the [i]really cool[/i] visuals of the gray, windswept world that appears when you put on the ring. It was cool when the Ringwraith stabbed Frodo on Weathertop, so why didn't they use it at the end of Return of the King? Why did they have Gollum swinging around in mid-air, looking goofy, when they could've shown some actual struggle, seeming epic because we're in the invisible world again?[/list] Honestly, I think the rest of the movie is top-notch, and I hope a few of the deleted scenes will help the mood. Particularly the mouth of Sauron, which makes the end fight with Aragorn and the army actually have emotional resonance. But the theatrical release has a few too many moments that were handled poorly. Oh, and one last thing. From a storytelling perspective, I always wanted Gollum to fall into the lava just as he bites of the ring, as a direct result of him getting it. The little dance he does and the embellishing chorus that accompanies it was too much for me. I wanted somebody to be a hero, even if they had Gollum fall and Frodo reach for him, coming to his senses at the last moment, trying to save Smeagol. *sigh* Well, I just missed all of Liv Tyler, so I suppose I should go see the Shire. [/QUOTE]
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