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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 1878420" data-attributes="member: 18280">And, without the Palantir, we don't get to understand exactly why he despaired, either.  Of course, if he had seen the ships coming upriver from Umbar, then we'd also presumably have to see the fight with the Corsairs of Umbar, when the Dead actually fought and were released.  And then we'd have had to understand that there were so few forces coming to Gondor's aid because of fighting going on elsewhere.....LotR was originally envisioned as six books.  If only we had had six movies....!     <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But Sam doesn't wear the Ring and kick ass in Mordor in the book.  In the book, Sam is quite aware that he cannot enter Mordor with the Ring on, or Sauron will know he is there.  This is very explicit in the book.When Sam rescues Frodo, most of the Orcs have already been killed, fighting over Frodo's mithral coat.  Remember, it was worth more than the Shire and everything in it....!Holding the Ring and being determined, so close to the seat of the Ring's power, was enough to make the Orcs see Sam as a great Elf warrior.  That, plus what happened to Shelob, which the Orcs saw as a warrior's work.I agree with your hopes that the extended version will answer my own complaints with this version.  Long as it is, the theatrical release of RotK was really a "bare bones" experience.  Fifty extra minutes might rectify that.RC</blockquote>

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