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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1879303" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>WARNING: <em>The Two Towers</em> spoilers!</p><p></p><p>Heck, if we HADN'T had an extra "Orcs on Monsters!" battle in <em>The Two Towers</em>, along with poor Dominic Monahan having to portentuously announce everything we're seeing as we're seeing it ("A shepherd of the trees!" "The army of Isengard!"), and ten minutes of bad water effects, we might have had time to Scour the Shire anyway.</p><p></p><p><em>The Two Towers</em> is a BAD movie. I like it cause it has swordfighting and monsters and Miranda Otto and Liv Tyler and a little bit of Cate Blanchett, but it's just bad. Bad dialogue (or worse, good dialogue made incomprehensible by having the characters (I'm thinking of the early scenes of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli) speaking their lines while quite clearly not within fifty yards of their friends), heavy-handed foreshadowing ("They say the trees can talk... even MOOOOOVVVVVEEE...." (poor Dominic Monahan)), and even more heavy-handed "comic relief" (poor John Rhys-Davies -- at least in FotR he got some powerful moments), and worst of all (this just might rank as the most parenthesised sentence I've ever written), a massive battle scene occupying the final quarter of the film that ends with no sign of any suffering on the good guys' parts. It's bizarre; at one moment the Hornburg is swarming with orcs pouring in from all sides and you're expecting a massacre, the next moment you see the Rohhirim abandoning the walls in a more-or-less orderly fashion, and then they're inside the hall and there's apparently only six people left alive (after we've just watched dozens run inside), and then they ride out -- and there's no registering of any price having been paid for this battle.</p><p></p><p>It's all very comic-book-y (in the bad, juvenile sense), and it robs what ought to be a heartwrenching, desperate stand of the weight and power it deserves.</p><p></p><p>A lot of people die at Helm's Deep. And they die in the movie, we see them dying in the early part of the fight. But once the Hornburg falls, there's no sign of death anymore, and I just find the whole thing very unsatisfying.</p><p></p><p>Whew. Slight rant, there. Sorry about that.</p><p></p><p>I think <em>The Fellowship of the Ring</em> is one of the all-time greatest movie adventures ever created. It's an amazing piece of work. But the subsequent two films are bitter disappointments to me.</p><p></p><p>Don't even get me started on what they did to Eowyn's moment of glory. GRRRRRR....</p><p></p><p>/me goes off to unwind somehow, muttering, "It's only a movie, lad..."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1879303, member: 812"] WARNING: [i]The Two Towers[/i] spoilers! Heck, if we HADN'T had an extra "Orcs on Monsters!" battle in [i]The Two Towers[/i], along with poor Dominic Monahan having to portentuously announce everything we're seeing as we're seeing it ("A shepherd of the trees!" "The army of Isengard!"), and ten minutes of bad water effects, we might have had time to Scour the Shire anyway. [i]The Two Towers[/i] is a BAD movie. I like it cause it has swordfighting and monsters and Miranda Otto and Liv Tyler and a little bit of Cate Blanchett, but it's just bad. Bad dialogue (or worse, good dialogue made incomprehensible by having the characters (I'm thinking of the early scenes of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli) speaking their lines while quite clearly not within fifty yards of their friends), heavy-handed foreshadowing ("They say the trees can talk... even MOOOOOVVVVVEEE...." (poor Dominic Monahan)), and even more heavy-handed "comic relief" (poor John Rhys-Davies -- at least in FotR he got some powerful moments), and worst of all (this just might rank as the most parenthesised sentence I've ever written), a massive battle scene occupying the final quarter of the film that ends with no sign of any suffering on the good guys' parts. It's bizarre; at one moment the Hornburg is swarming with orcs pouring in from all sides and you're expecting a massacre, the next moment you see the Rohhirim abandoning the walls in a more-or-less orderly fashion, and then they're inside the hall and there's apparently only six people left alive (after we've just watched dozens run inside), and then they ride out -- and there's no registering of any price having been paid for this battle. It's all very comic-book-y (in the bad, juvenile sense), and it robs what ought to be a heartwrenching, desperate stand of the weight and power it deserves. A lot of people die at Helm's Deep. And they die in the movie, we see them dying in the early part of the fight. But once the Hornburg falls, there's no sign of death anymore, and I just find the whole thing very unsatisfying. Whew. Slight rant, there. Sorry about that. I think [i]The Fellowship of the Ring[/i] is one of the all-time greatest movie adventures ever created. It's an amazing piece of work. But the subsequent two films are bitter disappointments to me. Don't even get me started on what they did to Eowyn's moment of glory. GRRRRRR.... /me goes off to unwind somehow, muttering, "It's only a movie, lad..." [/QUOTE]
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