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Grr. Return of the King makes me angry.
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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1882286" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>The implications of Faramir's line of course are completely reversed in the movie because of Faramir's reversed reaction to the Ring, so I don't think you can say it's "straight from the book". And Sam's line is certainly hampered by its new position in the story, Sean Astin's terrible delivery, the heavy-handed use of music and juxtaposition of imagery to make it "more serious." In the book it's just a quiet moment between two friends, Sam being his usual sensible self; in the movie it's an epic moment that spans the world and attempts to sum up the entire situation. It can't carry the weight they try to give it.</p><p></p><p>I think that those problems in any event pale next to stuff like the Warg attack (KenM: lots of ways to provide action without inventing an episode that has no effect on the storyline other than making us worry about Aragorn for twenty minutes), Merry and Pippin "tricking" Treebeard into know what's happening in his own forest, the lack of gravity to the battles from Helm's Deep on, and the evisceration of Eowyn's stand against the Witch King. Those are the REAL problems with the latter two films, I would say.</p><p></p><p>You'll note "not having the Scouring" isn't in there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1882286, member: 812"] The implications of Faramir's line of course are completely reversed in the movie because of Faramir's reversed reaction to the Ring, so I don't think you can say it's "straight from the book". And Sam's line is certainly hampered by its new position in the story, Sean Astin's terrible delivery, the heavy-handed use of music and juxtaposition of imagery to make it "more serious." In the book it's just a quiet moment between two friends, Sam being his usual sensible self; in the movie it's an epic moment that spans the world and attempts to sum up the entire situation. It can't carry the weight they try to give it. I think that those problems in any event pale next to stuff like the Warg attack (KenM: lots of ways to provide action without inventing an episode that has no effect on the storyline other than making us worry about Aragorn for twenty minutes), Merry and Pippin "tricking" Treebeard into know what's happening in his own forest, the lack of gravity to the battles from Helm's Deep on, and the evisceration of Eowyn's stand against the Witch King. Those are the REAL problems with the latter two films, I would say. You'll note "not having the Scouring" isn't in there. :D [/QUOTE]
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