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Message: <blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 8436643" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>No it wasn't. It started as a generic town in the DMG and was generally vague. They then hinted around that Red Hand of Doom COULD be part of the same world but Nentir Vale and the 4e fluff was not intended to be part of the FOrgotten Realms at any point. There were supplements set in the world of Nentir Vale but separated enough to be plugged in anywhere like Hammerfast for example and the Dragonborn supplement and the generic supplements for 4e. FR only got 3 supplements in the 4e era and much of the classic materials from previous editions like Against the Giants, Tomb of Horrors got Nentir Vale based adventures while the setting never really got a setting book. It was loose and vague with a world map and Fallcrest and a small handful of settlements laid out, the cosmology and some adventure sites. The settlements laid out were in relation to adventures or the aforementioned Hammerfast where it was a quick supplement. Nerath, the Raven Queen, Vecna as the God we know now (he was a different kind of God before), etc comes from Nentir Vale. Tielfings in 4e comes from Nentir Vale as before they had a much more... sinister spin to them and were largely a Planescape thing. Even Dragonborn were much different. So if ANYTHING, Forgotten Realms was beaten with a hammer, smacked around, told to shut up, abused, threatened and then cuckolded into fitting the Nentir Vale tropes into its lore and not the other way around.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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