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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4205016" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>While I love the OGL and wish 4e was just OGL'ed as well, I just gotta say "Geez!" You are purely speculating from an outside perspective while she is actually privy to a couple orders of magnitude more information and does this as her actual daily job. I'd cut a wee bit of slack for knowing what she is talking about. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Also, considering the GSL will also license a form of the D&D logo and a compatibility claim, they'd be on crack not to have a revocation clause in there. Opening up mechanics for eternity is one thing, opening up the brand name for eternity is pretty far out there. Even with the great open gaming movement, the d20 brand nor the D&D one were never opened for eternity.</p><p></p><p>If you want to be all doom and gloom "this is the death of open gaming", of course no one can stop you. But A) there's been some pretty big assurances than they actually are committed to open gaming just like the claim they are (I know I wouldn't publicly state I'd quit my job over predictions of what a corporation would do several years from now unless I was pretty darned sure of it), and B) the open gaming movement can only die if consumers allow it. </p><p></p><p>The OGL is eternal. So if it's really that important to that many consumers, then they will spend their money accordingly and keep it alive. If it's not worth their time and money, then yeah, it'll fade out. But, there's nothing stopping my grandchildren from publishing their own d20 games decades from now, regardless of anything WotC does or does not do with 4e and 5e. </p><p></p><p>So doom and gloom all you want, there's a great system that is open forever for anyone to publish under, and another system that sounds like it might be cool that people can also publish for about to come out. Anything else is just intertube speculation and ranting. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4205016, member: 40359"] While I love the OGL and wish 4e was just OGL'ed as well, I just gotta say "Geez!" You are purely speculating from an outside perspective while she is actually privy to a couple orders of magnitude more information and does this as her actual daily job. I'd cut a wee bit of slack for knowing what she is talking about. :) Also, considering the GSL will also license a form of the D&D logo and a compatibility claim, they'd be on crack not to have a revocation clause in there. Opening up mechanics for eternity is one thing, opening up the brand name for eternity is pretty far out there. Even with the great open gaming movement, the d20 brand nor the D&D one were never opened for eternity. If you want to be all doom and gloom "this is the death of open gaming", of course no one can stop you. But A) there's been some pretty big assurances than they actually are committed to open gaming just like the claim they are (I know I wouldn't publicly state I'd quit my job over predictions of what a corporation would do several years from now unless I was pretty darned sure of it), and B) the open gaming movement can only die if consumers allow it. The OGL is eternal. So if it's really that important to that many consumers, then they will spend their money accordingly and keep it alive. If it's not worth their time and money, then yeah, it'll fade out. But, there's nothing stopping my grandchildren from publishing their own d20 games decades from now, regardless of anything WotC does or does not do with 4e and 5e. So doom and gloom all you want, there's a great system that is open forever for anyone to publish under, and another system that sounds like it might be cool that people can also publish for about to come out. Anything else is just intertube speculation and ranting. :) [/QUOTE]
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