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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 4134562" data-attributes="member: 725">What is D&amp;D to you? It was 3.0E, then 3.5E, obviously your very excited about 4E. But what about Pathfinder RPG? It doesn't have the D&amp;D brand name, but it's essentially 3.5E with enhancements. What I'm trying to say, do you follow the D&amp;D brand name or is D&amp;D something more then the D&amp;D brand name? Where do you draw the line? Would Exalted with the D&amp;D brand be D&amp;D to you (I hope that made any sense)?I would hate to see the 3rd party publisher go the way of the dodo for 4E, but with the whole mess of the GSL (hinted at limitations), I am not as excited about 4E as some. Paizo did what I hoped someone would do, continue working under the OGL with was D&amp;D to me.No GSL would mean very little to the core of the current pro 4E players, but those that it does matter to are often DMs/GMs that represent their gaming group(s). If those decide that the GSL/OGL is important to them and go with the alternative of Pathfinder (or one of the other OGL games), then it isn't just one player gone, it's entire groups gone. If I look at my own situation, I dragged 5 people with me into 3E, then into 3.5E. While not everyone bought every D&amp;D/FR book, my little group was responsible for $1000s in sales, I know we're not unique. While our 3.5E game has died, in very much the same way as our 2E game died, I'm interested in resurrecting my old gaming group (I'm sure that I'm not the only one). With the rumours of 4E it seemed like a good time to try, but with the GSL announcement and some of the decisions that were made, it seemed less like a good idea to me. For me the OGL represents a certain amount of freedom, the GSL less so, but still better then none. As the needs of my friends have changed, I need to do a lot of work for Pathfinder or D&amp;D 4E anyway. Having been around to witness the TSR crackdown on D&amp;D fan material on the web, I don't want to worry about such a thing repeating itself, or be condemned to Gleemax...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 4134562, member: 725"] What is D&D to you? It was 3.0E, then 3.5E, obviously your very excited about 4E. But what about Pathfinder RPG? It doesn't have the D&D brand name, but it's essentially 3.5E with enhancements. What I'm trying to say, do you follow the D&D brand name or is D&D something more then the D&D brand name? Where do you draw the line? Would Exalted with the D&D brand be D&D to you (I hope that made any sense)? I would hate to see the 3rd party publisher go the way of the dodo for 4E, but with the whole mess of the GSL (hinted at limitations), I am not as excited about 4E as some. Paizo did what I hoped someone would do, continue working under the OGL with was D&D to me. No GSL would mean very little to the core of the current pro 4E players, but those that it does matter to are often DMs/GMs that represent their gaming group(s). If those decide that the GSL/OGL is important to them and go with the alternative of Pathfinder (or one of the other OGL games), then it isn't just one player gone, it's entire groups gone. If I look at my own situation, I dragged 5 people with me into 3E, then into 3.5E. While not everyone bought every D&D/FR book, my little group was responsible for $1000s in sales, I know we're not unique. While our 3.5E game has died, in very much the same way as our 2E game died, I'm interested in resurrecting my old gaming group (I'm sure that I'm not the only one). With the rumours of 4E it seemed like a good time to try, but with the GSL announcement and some of the decisions that were made, it seemed less like a good idea to me. For me the OGL represents a certain amount of freedom, the GSL less so, but still better then none. As the needs of my friends have changed, I need to do a lot of work for Pathfinder or D&D 4E anyway. Having been around to witness the TSR crackdown on D&D fan material on the web, I don't want to worry about such a thing repeating itself, or be condemned to Gleemax... [/QUOTE]

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