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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 4135953" data-attributes="member: 1254">There are four options:A. Close 4E. Nothing more to discuss.B. Use the OGL. That's easy. Just create the 4E SRD and say "this is released as open game content". Then let us use it under the license.C. License the PI and work those restrictions from the old STL back in.This would be really really easy.  1. Designate ALL of the 4E core books and their contents as PI and require us to agree not to challenge or dispute said designation or to challenge ownership.2. Then, give the publishers permission per OGL section 7 to use that PI under the OGL v1.0a subject to certain conditions--namely, that they follow some of the conditions from the STL/Guide:a. no describing character creation,b. no describing applying XP to a charcterc. no interactive gamesd. no minise. no using "core rules"f. must meet community standards of decency, such as nudity, race and religion as found in the STL.(you know, all the terms people got around by just going OGL and not using the d20 license because the d20 logo became meaningless).3. Permit publishers to say "For use with Dungeons and Dragons, Fourth Edition, published by Wizards of the Coast" on their products.4. Provide some version of the D&D logo, similar to the one on the back of the "Wizards Presents..." books for our use. 5. Let us refer to the name of the book and page numbers for goodness sake!6. Require us to say "This product uses content from the Fourth Edition Dungeons and Dragons game, published by Wizards of the Coast, Inc. All such content is Product Identity and is used with permission and by seperate agreement. No such content is Open Game Content."Then create a smart SRD. Dont just retype all the stuff. All that does is slow the SRD down and prevents us from supporting their future releases. Instead, for each product, simply do a Section 15 listing like what we would for an OGL product telling us how you want us to reference that book, with a provision that we have to say the blurb above. And as each book comes out, update the smart SRD with the title of the book and add it to the PI permission document. Its real easy to license this stuff and keep all the restrictions Wizards is likely concerned about. D. Create a brand new license called the GSL.This is something that could be made from scratch. So its biggest benefit is that new people who didnt do the OGL can say, "yeah, I made that." I have no idea what the issues are. But the downside is that we have been working with the OGL for about 8 years now. We know what can and cant be done. We know how to use it. I'm not sure creating a brand new license is needed when you can simply use C, above. My OpinionI think C is the best choice. It continues open gaming. It continues a license we all know how to work with. It works back in the restrictions that Wizards wanted in the license in the first place with the d2) STL. It ties the license back to D&D, which is really what Wizards wants to do--sell D&D books. It precents stand alone competing game systems like M&M, which arguably dont add as much to Wizards' percieved value of open gaming as do, say, products that straight support D&D. It protects their content by making it all PI which is impregnable in the OGL and, frankly, PI is protected even more solidly that regular copyright and it requires us not to challenge ownership.</blockquote>

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