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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9018849" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>Respectfully, I don't agree with most of this.</p><p></p><p>I thought it was cool and really well done, but this part I understand. If you're not into it, it went long.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't get what you mean here. What's "comic book logic"?</p><p></p><p></p><p>It seems pretty consistent to me that some things are powerful enough to harm them and others are not. Nathan Fillion's gun hurts Drax, for example, but Drax can take a LOT of punishment from getting knocked about.</p><p></p><p>Adam Warlock IS an idiot as portrayed here. Why would you expect him to make the best decisions? Maybe he just felt like fighting.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't like how you're using that as an insult. Thinking that comics are all one thing is like thinking that all movies are sports movies or all TV shows are crime procedurals.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm. I think a lot of people who watched that movie felt that it caried a lot of emotional weight.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, they didn't spend a lot of time on it, but the characters certainly reacted to what happened. They didn't really have time within the confines of the movie to spend time being sad about it, but I think the movie made quite a lot of effort to point out how horrible the actions of the bad guy were. More than the usual amount, certainly more than Star Wars, where Leia is NEVER seen being upset about her homeworld's destruction and doesn't even have a single line of dialogue regarding it after it happens, IIRC.</p><p></p><p></p><p>On the one hand, you're complaining that it was too comic-bookish, but on the other hand, you're complaining that the morality isn't black-and-white. All the characters are deeply flawed. That's part of the point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>She'd gone through a few years of different experiences by the start of this film. She may have been open to positive change at the point in her life where GotG1 started, but by now has been hanging out with the Ravagers doing Ravagey things. (Though they seem to be a pretty loveable group themselves). Clearly there's something about the Guardians (and Quill himself) that speaks to her in a way that brings out the best in her.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, you're absolutely free to not like it, of course. I just feel like a lot of your nitpicks remind me of reviews where the author says "(this part) doesn't make an sense!" when the explanation is explicitly called out in the film. It's one thing when a movie contradicts itself or seems like the makers gave NO THOUGHT to the consequences of the actions shown on screen (Wonder Woman raping a guy comes to mind - NO ONE noticed that while making the film?) but this movie (to me, anyhow) seemed to, if anything, go out of its way to make sure that everything was consistent and called out by the characters. YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9018849, member: 59816"] Respectfully, I don't agree with most of this. I thought it was cool and really well done, but this part I understand. If you're not into it, it went long. I don't get what you mean here. What's "comic book logic"? It seems pretty consistent to me that some things are powerful enough to harm them and others are not. Nathan Fillion's gun hurts Drax, for example, but Drax can take a LOT of punishment from getting knocked about. Adam Warlock IS an idiot as portrayed here. Why would you expect him to make the best decisions? Maybe he just felt like fighting. I don't like how you're using that as an insult. Thinking that comics are all one thing is like thinking that all movies are sports movies or all TV shows are crime procedurals. Hmm. I think a lot of people who watched that movie felt that it caried a lot of emotional weight. I mean, they didn't spend a lot of time on it, but the characters certainly reacted to what happened. They didn't really have time within the confines of the movie to spend time being sad about it, but I think the movie made quite a lot of effort to point out how horrible the actions of the bad guy were. More than the usual amount, certainly more than Star Wars, where Leia is NEVER seen being upset about her homeworld's destruction and doesn't even have a single line of dialogue regarding it after it happens, IIRC. On the one hand, you're complaining that it was too comic-bookish, but on the other hand, you're complaining that the morality isn't black-and-white. All the characters are deeply flawed. That's part of the point. She'd gone through a few years of different experiences by the start of this film. She may have been open to positive change at the point in her life where GotG1 started, but by now has been hanging out with the Ravagers doing Ravagey things. (Though they seem to be a pretty loveable group themselves). Clearly there's something about the Guardians (and Quill himself) that speaks to her in a way that brings out the best in her. At any rate, you're absolutely free to not like it, of course. I just feel like a lot of your nitpicks remind me of reviews where the author says "(this part) doesn't make an sense!" when the explanation is explicitly called out in the film. It's one thing when a movie contradicts itself or seems like the makers gave NO THOUGHT to the consequences of the actions shown on screen (Wonder Woman raping a guy comes to mind - NO ONE noticed that while making the film?) but this movie (to me, anyhow) seemed to, if anything, go out of its way to make sure that everything was consistent and called out by the characters. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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