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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9021711" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I mean, that's not saying much. I can think of exactly three "third movies in a trilogy" which get watched on their own merits, and I'm doubtful that there are many others:</p><p></p><p>1) Three Colours: Red</p><p></p><p>2) The Good, The Bad and the Ugly</p><p></p><p>3) Army of Darkness</p><p></p><p>In all three cases it's because they're pretty much stand-alone stand-out movies. Most third movies in a trilogy are somewhere between car crashes (Godfather Part III, TRoS, Blade Trinity, etc.) and a significant step down (RotJ, Spider-Man 3, Mummy 3, Matrix Revolutions, etc.). I would argue this isn't even enough of a step down to fit into the latter category.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's the bolded bit.</p><p></p><p>"All over the place and too obvious" is a good summary of Awesome Mix Vol 1 and Vol 2, so that's not really getting into this imho.</p><p></p><p>What we're really seeing is that Gunn's musical taste re: the 1970s and the 1980s is a lot better than his musical taste re: the 1990s and beyond. The thing I thought was very weird was that we were shown the Zune being set to "1990s", yet like, what, <strong>two</strong> songs were from the 1990s at all?! And only one of them was real "'90s banger", and the 1990s is absolutely full of bangers. The vast majority of the songs remained early 1980s ands late 1970s, and those were good, sure, but like don't pretend you're doing 1990s when you're not! I'm pretty sure <em>The Batman</em> had more 1990s music in it than this.</p><p></p><p>Particularly what we can say is that is that the last song was just the most mainstream advert-rock track choice possible. I mean for god's sake, not only are you picking Florence + The Machine (an utterly MoR/safe choice), but you're picking their most overplayed and generic-sounding song (Dog Days Are Over). Also barely even '00s as it's from 2009 and really represents a sound that went big in the early 2010s. Why not just play Mr Brightside if you're going to go that mainstream?! It's actually a bit more of a banger!</p><p></p><p>My strong suspicion is that the 1990s is like, a "dark decade" for Gunn, where he just wasn't paying attention to new music, because there are so many 1990s bands that go so extremely hard and would have fit extremely well with the general vibe - The Prodigy, RHCP, Garbage, RatM, The Spice Girls (100% serious), Smashing Pumpkins, The Cranberries, Massive Attack, and a zillion more (and that's just the mainstream). I mean, fair play in that a lot of people have a decade (more in some cases) where they stopped listening to much new music, but they should have just skipped that decade in that case. Also I continue to suspect that a James Gunn '00s or '10s playlist would be resolutely MoR and no deep cuts at all, like even a nerd like me could do a better '00s or '10s playlist (I know I could do a better '90s one). Stick to what you know, Gunn!</p><p></p><p>This film shat on all other post-Endgame MCU stuff from a great height, so yeah.</p><p></p><p>The defining characteristic of post-Endgame MCU movies has been that they tell a story in a very rote and unstylized way, and barely even seem to be movies in many cases. I'd call them "extended videogame cutscenes", but honestly, there are videogame cutscenes with a lot more artistry and cinematic flair than some of these movies (especially say, Metal Gear Solid games - one of which I believe has a 90 minute cutscene).</p><p></p><p>It's like they've all been given this bigass list of references and plot points that they absolutely have to include, and the movies are often more about "advancing the plot" and "introducing characters" than anything else. There's also been a general soullessness and generic-ness that, for all the flaws GotG3 might have, it didn't have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9021711, member: 18"] I mean, that's not saying much. I can think of exactly three "third movies in a trilogy" which get watched on their own merits, and I'm doubtful that there are many others: 1) Three Colours: Red 2) The Good, The Bad and the Ugly 3) Army of Darkness In all three cases it's because they're pretty much stand-alone stand-out movies. Most third movies in a trilogy are somewhere between car crashes (Godfather Part III, TRoS, Blade Trinity, etc.) and a significant step down (RotJ, Spider-Man 3, Mummy 3, Matrix Revolutions, etc.). I would argue this isn't even enough of a step down to fit into the latter category. It's the bolded bit. "All over the place and too obvious" is a good summary of Awesome Mix Vol 1 and Vol 2, so that's not really getting into this imho. What we're really seeing is that Gunn's musical taste re: the 1970s and the 1980s is a lot better than his musical taste re: the 1990s and beyond. The thing I thought was very weird was that we were shown the Zune being set to "1990s", yet like, what, [B]two[/B] songs were from the 1990s at all?! And only one of them was real "'90s banger", and the 1990s is absolutely full of bangers. The vast majority of the songs remained early 1980s ands late 1970s, and those were good, sure, but like don't pretend you're doing 1990s when you're not! I'm pretty sure [I]The Batman[/I] had more 1990s music in it than this. Particularly what we can say is that is that the last song was just the most mainstream advert-rock track choice possible. I mean for god's sake, not only are you picking Florence + The Machine (an utterly MoR/safe choice), but you're picking their most overplayed and generic-sounding song (Dog Days Are Over). Also barely even '00s as it's from 2009 and really represents a sound that went big in the early 2010s. Why not just play Mr Brightside if you're going to go that mainstream?! It's actually a bit more of a banger! My strong suspicion is that the 1990s is like, a "dark decade" for Gunn, where he just wasn't paying attention to new music, because there are so many 1990s bands that go so extremely hard and would have fit extremely well with the general vibe - The Prodigy, RHCP, Garbage, RatM, The Spice Girls (100% serious), Smashing Pumpkins, The Cranberries, Massive Attack, and a zillion more (and that's just the mainstream). I mean, fair play in that a lot of people have a decade (more in some cases) where they stopped listening to much new music, but they should have just skipped that decade in that case. Also I continue to suspect that a James Gunn '00s or '10s playlist would be resolutely MoR and no deep cuts at all, like even a nerd like me could do a better '00s or '10s playlist (I know I could do a better '90s one). Stick to what you know, Gunn! This film shat on all other post-Endgame MCU stuff from a great height, so yeah. The defining characteristic of post-Endgame MCU movies has been that they tell a story in a very rote and unstylized way, and barely even seem to be movies in many cases. I'd call them "extended videogame cutscenes", but honestly, there are videogame cutscenes with a lot more artistry and cinematic flair than some of these movies (especially say, Metal Gear Solid games - one of which I believe has a 90 minute cutscene). It's like they've all been given this bigass list of references and plot points that they absolutely have to include, and the movies are often more about "advancing the plot" and "introducing characters" than anything else. There's also been a general soullessness and generic-ness that, for all the flaws GotG3 might have, it didn't have. [/QUOTE]
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