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<blockquote data-quote="NeverLucky" data-source="post: 7066070" data-attributes="member: 6809614">With Dominate effects, and controlling charm effects (like succubus, but not vampire which doesn't establish control), you can absolutely force players to fight to the best of their abilities as they would normally fight. You shouldn't permanently penalize players by forcing them to cast Wish with effort or forcing them to waste scrolls or magic items (e.g. spending last charge of wand), but you can definitely have them use spells and abilities as they would against any other enemy.That said, getting dominated is one of the least fun things that can happen in D&amp;D, and also one of the easiest ways to TPK a party (since it represents such a huge swing when you lose a PC and gain an enemy), so I don't stress it too much when players fight sub-optimally while dominated. In game, you can chalk it up to the inner spirit of the character fighting the domination as best they can.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NeverLucky, post: 7066070, member: 6809614"] With Dominate effects, and controlling charm effects (like succubus, but not vampire which doesn't establish control), you can absolutely force players to fight to the best of their abilities as they would normally fight. You shouldn't permanently penalize players by forcing them to cast Wish with effort or forcing them to waste scrolls or magic items (e.g. spending last charge of wand), but you can definitely have them use spells and abilities as they would against any other enemy. That said, getting dominated is one of the least fun things that can happen in D&D, and also one of the easiest ways to TPK a party (since it represents such a huge swing when you lose a PC and gain an enemy), so I don't stress it too much when players fight sub-optimally while dominated. In game, you can chalk it up to the inner spirit of the character fighting the domination as best they can. [/QUOTE]

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