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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7831063" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>I'm posting the text of the spell because I think this gets to the heart of the matter, at least with my interpretation. </p><p></p><p>The target of the spell is "one willing creature." The spell then goes on to say that this creature (the target) "can roll a d4 and add the number rolled to one ability check of its choice." Now, we know that this creature is not going to roll a d4 or add it to an ability check that it has made. Those are things that the player of the creature is going to do at the table where the game is being played. And yet, the spell requires that this die rolling and adding <strong>at the table</strong> must take place within the one minute duration of the spell <strong>in the fiction</strong>. This leaves the DM in a conundrum as to how to interpret this type of spell, and I think there are at least two possible ways to resolve this.</p><p></p><p>You can interpolate the phrase "player of the targeted creature" for the word "target", which then makes sense of the instructions for die rolling and adding, like so: This makes it clear, I think, that the duration of the spell is something which is considered to be in effect at the table and that the die rolling and adding is taking place under that duration (which of course is not an actual minute at the table).</p><p></p><p>The alternative is to treat the target as the creature itself and interpolate in the creature's fictional actions represented by the mechanics being used at the table in place of the references to mechanics found in the spell. I.e. something like: This is obviously unplayable and not my preference.</p><p></p><p>Somewhat in support of the first reading is this passage which is buried in the combat rules:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7831063, member: 6787503"] I'm posting the text of the spell because I think this gets to the heart of the matter, at least with my interpretation. The target of the spell is "one willing creature." The spell then goes on to say that this creature (the target) "can roll a d4 and add the number rolled to one ability check of its choice." Now, we know that this creature is not going to roll a d4 or add it to an ability check that it has made. Those are things that the player of the creature is going to do at the table where the game is being played. And yet, the spell requires that this die rolling and adding [B]at the table[/B] must take place within the one minute duration of the spell [B]in the fiction[/B]. This leaves the DM in a conundrum as to how to interpret this type of spell, and I think there are at least two possible ways to resolve this. You can interpolate the phrase "player of the targeted creature" for the word "target", which then makes sense of the instructions for die rolling and adding, like so: This makes it clear, I think, that the duration of the spell is something which is considered to be in effect at the table and that the die rolling and adding is taking place under that duration (which of course is not an actual minute at the table). The alternative is to treat the target as the creature itself and interpolate in the creature's fictional actions represented by the mechanics being used at the table in place of the references to mechanics found in the spell. I.e. something like: This is obviously unplayable and not my preference. Somewhat in support of the first reading is this passage which is buried in the combat rules: [/QUOTE]
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