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<blockquote data-quote="Fenris-77" data-source="post: 7609139" data-attributes="member: 6993955">The Ranger 3 dip to gain Dread Ambush is almost a must have, as it's the only way you can even partially replace the Fighter's capstone 4th attack.&nbsp; Assuming you are trying to maximize both attacks and dice to crit with. Fighter11/Rogue 5/Ranger 4 can max nova something silly like max 700 damage in round one when using action surge.Just in case I'm mathing wrong, here's the crunchy bits using a longbow:You have 3 Attacks +1 from Dread Ambush, plus you have 5 superiority dice and an extra d8 on the Dread Ambush attack (twice with AS) which gives you an additional d8 on 7 of 8 attacks. So assuming surprise and thus crit and using sharpshooter to -5/+10 with Dex 20 (and hunters mark, just for giggles)2d8 weapon/2d8 Superiority/2d6 Hunter's Mark/6d6 Backstab +15 = max 95, which you do 4 times so max 380Then you action surge and do it again, and the only difference is you don't get a superiority d8 on the second&nbsp; last attack, so max 371, for a total of 751.You have the ASIs to get both Sharpshooter and Elven Accuracy, so hitting a lot happens most rounds.Am I doing something wrong there?When I do the build without that fourth attack from Dread Ambush I can't find a way to get the nova damage anywhere close to as high.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fenris-77, post: 7609139, member: 6993955"] The Ranger 3 dip to gain Dread Ambush is almost a must have, as it's the only way you can even partially replace the Fighter's capstone 4th attack. Assuming you are trying to maximize both attacks and dice to crit with. Fighter11/Rogue 5/Ranger 4 can max nova something silly like max 700 damage in round one when using action surge. Just in case I'm mathing wrong, here's the crunchy bits using a longbow: You have 3 Attacks +1 from Dread Ambush, plus you have 5 superiority dice and an extra d8 on the Dread Ambush attack (twice with AS) which gives you an additional d8 on 7 of 8 attacks. So assuming surprise and thus crit and using sharpshooter to -5/+10 with Dex 20 (and hunters mark, just for giggles) 2d8 weapon/2d8 Superiority/2d6 Hunter's Mark/6d6 Backstab +15 = max 95, which you do 4 times so max 380 Then you action surge and do it again, and the only difference is you don't get a superiority d8 on the second last attack, so max 371, for a total of 751. You have the ASIs to get both Sharpshooter and Elven Accuracy, so hitting a lot happens most rounds. Am I doing something wrong there? When I do the build without that fourth attack from Dread Ambush I can't find a way to get the nova damage anywhere close to as high. [/QUOTE]

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