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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rofel Wodring" data-source="post: 7269454" data-attributes="member: 6873189">I'm sorry if I came off as rude, but I'm inherently disdainful of 'how can I make my Bladesinger better in melee' comments for two reasons.1.) If the Bladesinger does get substantially better in melee than it is right now, it'll overshadow every other gish. Compare the Bladesinger to, say, the Hexblade. The Bladesinger beats it on AC, spell selection, spells per day, and the Trinity of Defense. The Hexblade's only real area it can beat the Bladesinger on is raw DPR, and that's only if the Bladesinger has a gentleman's agreement not to abuse spells like Planar Binding and Simulacrum. I don't like CoDzilla and you shouldn't either.2.) Looking for ways to make your Bladesinger stronger in melee at the expense of other things (most critically, what to do with your concentration slot) will make your character substantially less effective. Treantmonk was rather subtle about this in his original guide and it recently led to a rather fruitless conversation, so I'm going to be more explicit. If melee megadamage is what's really important to you, such that when you're asked the question 'is Blur really that more important to you than Enemies Abound' and you say 'yes', Bladesinger really isn't the right choice for you.If 1 and 2 seem to conflict, here's an analogy. In 3.5E D&D, CoDZilla was not the most effective way to play a cleric. The most effective way to play a cleric was what 4E D&D would later call a laser cleric. However, laser clerics flew under the radar when Pathfinder went out of its way to nerf the CoDzilla cleric. In fact, Pathfinder went out of their way to (unwittingly) buff up the laser cleric so that the only thing 3.5E clerics really have on them is Divine Metamagic and the Spell Domain. But why did CoDZilla get the nerf stick while the laser cleric got goodies? Because CoDzilla directly created jealousy by being better than the actual martials.</blockquote>

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