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<blockquote data-quote="Mighty_K" data-source="post: 7216716" data-attributes="member: 6906022"><p>Hm... what I don't understand in the last part ist about the EK18/BS2 called George.</p><p>You write "He did this to get spells like Haste just a little bit sooner." and in the calculations George starts getting Hasted numbers at lvl 11 (EK9/BS2). </p><p>But how Multiclassing works he is delaying access to higher level spells. He still can take haste at EK 14 the earliest (because it is not a abjuration or evocation spell) and for George that means character lvl 16.</p><p></p><p>With Haste out of the window, things look different for George. Especially TWF doesn't make sense now. (Which "saves" us 2 feats, so we start to raise dex at lvl 6+8)</p><p></p><p>No, what you do is take the dueling style, grab a Rapier and do 6.5 damage per hit with it. At lvl 9 you got DEX 20 and War Magic. You do (6,5+5)+4,5+9+(6,5+5)=36,5 (BB) or (6,5+5)+4,5+4,5+3+(6,5+5)= 35 (GFB) damage At that level, Brutus does 38 with GFB and Alexander does 25.5, although with Haste on he can raise this to 39.</p><p></p><p>I think the difference is much smaller now and George has his lvl 1 feat open and takes his ASIs earlier. </p><p></p><p>George has DEX 20 at lvl 8. </p><p>Alexander still has DEX 16 at that level and only reaches DEX 20 at lvl 13. A pretty big difference.</p><p></p><p>At lvl 9, against AC 16, George needs a 8 (60%), Alex needs a 9 (55%) comparing their Damage like this shows: Alex, 55% of 39 = 21.45, George, 60% of 36.5 = 21.9 damage. George wins out.</p><p></p><p>And George still has that lvl 1 feat and will get more feats all in all ...</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, all in all, I think it is not that clear cut!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mighty_K, post: 7216716, member: 6906022"] Hm... what I don't understand in the last part ist about the EK18/BS2 called George. You write "He did this to get spells like Haste just a little bit sooner." and in the calculations George starts getting Hasted numbers at lvl 11 (EK9/BS2). But how Multiclassing works he is delaying access to higher level spells. He still can take haste at EK 14 the earliest (because it is not a abjuration or evocation spell) and for George that means character lvl 16. With Haste out of the window, things look different for George. Especially TWF doesn't make sense now. (Which "saves" us 2 feats, so we start to raise dex at lvl 6+8) No, what you do is take the dueling style, grab a Rapier and do 6.5 damage per hit with it. At lvl 9 you got DEX 20 and War Magic. You do (6,5+5)+4,5+9+(6,5+5)=36,5 (BB) or (6,5+5)+4,5+4,5+3+(6,5+5)= 35 (GFB) damage At that level, Brutus does 38 with GFB and Alexander does 25.5, although with Haste on he can raise this to 39. I think the difference is much smaller now and George has his lvl 1 feat open and takes his ASIs earlier. George has DEX 20 at lvl 8. Alexander still has DEX 16 at that level and only reaches DEX 20 at lvl 13. A pretty big difference. At lvl 9, against AC 16, George needs a 8 (60%), Alex needs a 9 (55%) comparing their Damage like this shows: Alex, 55% of 39 = 21.45, George, 60% of 36.5 = 21.9 damage. George wins out. And George still has that lvl 1 feat and will get more feats all in all ... So, all in all, I think it is not that clear cut! [/QUOTE]
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