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<blockquote data-quote="sinecure" data-source="post: 4566023" data-attributes="member: 37668">You must be joking.&nbsp; The role is Adventurer.&nbsp; Try and stop being a dungeon delving adventurer and the game doesn't work.&nbsp; But game rewards have always been the point of a game.&nbsp; &nbsp;Take a long, long think about what you are saying.&nbsp; Have you ever in your life heard of a game or sport that did not claim to be done for enjoyment?&nbsp; Fun?&nbsp; The point of a game is the objective of the game.&nbsp; Fun is an incredibly subjective experience.&nbsp; It cannot be the goal of a game.&nbsp; You're sounding like the 4E D&amp;D designers with &quot;fun&quot; being the point of D&amp;D and totally losing focus on what D&amp;D actually is.Gaining XP and equipment is what it means to roleplay an adventurer.&nbsp; You seem to be misunderstanding what roleplaying means.&nbsp; Simply by playing a computer RPG you are roleplaying.&nbsp; D&amp;D began with Tim #1, Tim #2, etc. as characters.&nbsp; WoW is D&amp;D on a computer.&nbsp;Playing D&amp;D is roleplaying no matter if you try and tell a story or not.&nbsp; I'd say telling a story is about as successful as it is in World of Warcraft: Crappy.&nbsp; Campaign journals are termed such for a reason. They are not stories written from the perspective of a narrator, but by a single character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sinecure, post: 4566023, member: 37668"] You must be joking. The role is Adventurer. Try and stop being a dungeon delving adventurer and the game doesn't work. But game rewards have always been the point of a game. Take a long, long think about what you are saying. Have you ever in your life heard of a game or sport that did not claim to be done for enjoyment? Fun? The point of a game is the objective of the game. Fun is an incredibly subjective experience. It cannot be the goal of a game. You're sounding like the 4E D&D designers with "fun" being the point of D&D and totally losing focus on what D&D actually is. Gaining XP and equipment is what it means to roleplay an adventurer. You seem to be misunderstanding what roleplaying means. Simply by playing a computer RPG you are roleplaying. D&D began with Tim #1, Tim #2, etc. as characters. WoW is D&D on a computer. Playing D&D is roleplaying no matter if you try and tell a story or not. I'd say telling a story is about as successful as it is in World of Warcraft: Crappy. Campaign [I]journals[/I] are termed such for a reason. They are not stories written from the perspective of a narrator, but by a single character. [/QUOTE]

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