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<blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 8979792" data-attributes="member: 5948">Nah, that's still not selling the argument for me.&nbsp; Quite aside from the fact that +1d4 to hit is a very big deal when you're taking -5 from Sharpshooter or Great Weapon Master, and also quite aside that +1d4 to hit remains very relevant in the first 5-8 levels before big proficiency bonuses and magic weapons with lots of pluses come along (the level range where most actual real-life play happens), the OP seems to ignore that Bless is more than that.&nbsp; In an edition where non-proficient saves don't increase&nbsp; automatically with level (UNLIKE 3e etc), that +1d4 to saving throws that Bless also gives you is a big deal. Even though as you gain level you get make more attacks and therefore are increasingly likely to roll at least one low one that Bless might help convert to a hit, I'd definitely argue that the save bonus becomes the major benefit of this spell as you gain in level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="humble minion, post: 8979792, member: 5948"] Nah, that's still not selling the argument for me. Quite aside from the fact that +1d4 to hit is a very big deal when you're taking -5 from Sharpshooter or Great Weapon Master, and also quite aside that +1d4 to hit remains very relevant in the first 5-8 levels before big proficiency bonuses and magic weapons with lots of pluses come along (the level range where most actual real-life play happens), the OP seems to ignore that Bless is more than that. In an edition where non-proficient saves don't increase automatically with level (UNLIKE 3e etc), that +1d4 to saving throws that Bless also gives you is a big deal. Even though as you gain level you get make more attacks and therefore are increasingly likely to roll at least one low one that Bless might help convert to a hit, I'd definitely argue that the save bonus becomes the major benefit of this spell as you gain in level. [/QUOTE]

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