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<blockquote data-quote="HellHound" data-source="post: 436713" data-attributes="member: 3397">100% Thread Hijack!Now, the distinction between Mind Flayers and Trogs is significant. Mainly because TSR -DID- write a very big book about Flayers and they -DIDN'T- write a big book about Trogs. Thus, you can write a book about Troglodytes without breaking canon too many times.But now, try to write a full book about Mind Flayers without actually &quot;touching&quot; on the subjects from the Illithiad, and still claim it's a complete book. So, you can't talk about life-cycle, society, etc... But the good news is we didn't actually stray THAT far from canon in the book in question. But some amount of moving away from the old TSR canon is to be expected in d20 products, and should be encouraged instead of scorned. Let the DMs CHOOSE which option they prefer, instead of just slapping an &quot;incompatable&quot; sticker upon the newer options. Personally, the Illithiad COULDN'T be used in my games when it came out. Because in 1982, I had written three full campaigns that were mind flayer-based (and had run them all by 1988). In these campaigns I had detailed Mind Flayer society, ecology, genetics, personas and so on. And NONE of it matched the &quot;canon&quot;. So I chose to keep to my view of these underdark terrors. And witht he quality of non-canon materials coming out now, I think it's time to sit back and read them and to choose which route to take from there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HellHound, post: 436713, member: 3397"] 100% Thread Hijack! Now, the distinction between Mind Flayers and Trogs is significant. Mainly because TSR -DID- write a very big book about Flayers and they -DIDN'T- write a big book about Trogs. Thus, you can write a book about Troglodytes without breaking canon too many times. But now, try to write a full book about Mind Flayers without actually "touching" on the subjects from the Illithiad, and still claim it's a complete book. So, you can't talk about life-cycle, society, etc... But the good news is we didn't actually stray THAT far from canon in the book in question. But some amount of moving away from the old TSR canon is to be expected in d20 products, and should be encouraged instead of scorned. Let the DMs CHOOSE which option they prefer, instead of just slapping an "incompatable" sticker upon the newer options. Personally, the Illithiad COULDN'T be used in my games when it came out. Because in 1982, I had written three full campaigns that were mind flayer-based (and had run them all by 1988). In these campaigns I had detailed Mind Flayer society, ecology, genetics, personas and so on. And NONE of it matched the "canon". So I chose to keep to my view of these underdark terrors. And witht he quality of non-canon materials coming out now, I think it's time to sit back and read them and to choose which route to take from there. [/QUOTE]

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