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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 4176662" data-attributes="member: 19696">From what I've heard, that's the only way to PUG them now.  Many guilds or alliances organize to do them sans ursan.I still play regularly.  Bounce between several different characters, and have a growing guild of people who are on at all kinds of different times.  I haven't spent much time in GWEN, partialy because the grind of getting up race ranks doesn't appeal to me much, and some of those PvE skills are overkill, but then, I just haven't done much in GWEN, and what I have done was enjoyable, so I guess it's not that bad.My main Mesmer has Protector of Tyria and Cantha, and halfway to Elonia.  No one else has finished anything, but I just finished fully ascending my Tyrian monk, my Warrior is in the Desert at L19, my L18 Ritualist just needs to do the attribute point quests and is 2 missions away from Ascention, and my L18 Paragon just needs to do the Consulate Docks and Hunted! to ascend.  I haven't spend much time on my Elementalist, I deleted a dervish for the PvP slot, and my Ranger was going to stay in Pre-searing for a while, but I think I'm going to rename him, so I'll promote and loot him first (I think he has 3 plat and 15-20 dyes)Meloran Avenro is my Warrior, Dawn Hayes is the Mesmer, and Faith Hayes is the monk.  Feel free to say hi, and if you need a guild, mine's always open.</blockquote>