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<blockquote data-quote="scipio" data-source="post: 1981220" data-attributes="member: 16382">Hi there everyone.&nbsp; Had a tough game tonight, and am looking for input.&nbsp; Basically, party of 7, all 9th level faced a Young Adult Blue Dragon (CR11), that was Huge instead of Large.&nbsp; One of the characters had a newly minted half-ogre barbarian/frenzied something (tonight was my first savage species experience, and I'm not pleased at all) that could somehow get his strength up to 42 while frenzied raging.&nbsp; Now, half ogres have an ECL of +1, but net +4 on stats, get natural AC, are large, and probably get something else I forgot.&nbsp; Another party member gave him a fly spell, and he charged the dragon.&nbsp; Dragon got an AoO (after the fact, the player stated he was charging with his spear that had a reach of 20, and not his axe - I did not retroactively correct this), and his attack was stopped short due to improved grab and a subsequent grapple.&nbsp; Long story short, the PC died, the party beat the dragon and I'm still not sure if it was a fair death, or a death that resulted from the fact that I had a really unbalanced character suddenly dropped into my game that I couldn't handle.&nbsp; I'm confident I reacted poorly, but I was hoping to get a few things discussed here. 1) How do you treat material from books you don't own 2)is the half-ogre unbalanced (and in the same vein, is it unfair to the other PCs to let one player have a broken character). 3) what would you do for the player now?&nbsp; Thanks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scipio, post: 1981220, member: 16382"] Hi there everyone. Had a tough game tonight, and am looking for input. Basically, party of 7, all 9th level faced a Young Adult Blue Dragon (CR11), that was Huge instead of Large. One of the characters had a newly minted half-ogre barbarian/frenzied something (tonight was my first savage species experience, and I'm not pleased at all) that could somehow get his strength up to 42 while frenzied raging. Now, half ogres have an ECL of +1, but net +4 on stats, get natural AC, are large, and probably get something else I forgot. Another party member gave him a fly spell, and he charged the dragon. Dragon got an AoO (after the fact, the player stated he was charging with his spear that had a reach of 20, and not his axe - I did not retroactively correct this), and his attack was stopped short due to improved grab and a subsequent grapple. Long story short, the PC died, the party beat the dragon and I'm still not sure if it was a fair death, or a death that resulted from the fact that I had a really unbalanced character suddenly dropped into my game that I couldn't handle. I'm confident I reacted poorly, but I was hoping to get a few things discussed here. 1) How do you treat material from books you don't own 2)is the half-ogre unbalanced (and in the same vein, is it unfair to the other PCs to let one player have a broken character). 3) what would you do for the player now? Thanks. [/QUOTE]

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