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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4572815" data-attributes="member: 32536">Hey, I may not be a longtime fan, but you are talking to a guy who pre-ordered the Zeta Gundam special edition DVD boxset and cursed Cartoon Network when they prematurely ended the TV run of the original Mobile Suit Gundam.Are you kidding? Lelouch is a terrible Knightmare Frame pilot... Besides, that series focuses much more on large-scale strategic battles, won just as much by strategy as anything else, and tends to feature a lot of dramatic shifts in the tide of battle. The entire second episode is an example of a battle swinging wildly between an inevitable Britannian victory, a miraculous regrouping and near victory by the rebels, the unexpected turn against the rebels when Suzaku shows up, and the unpredictable finale. Just because grunts can't beat Suzaku doesn't mean battles are predictable and boring. Besides, that series has plenty of good evenly matched fights anyways, even if it takes a while to get to that point.As for Gundam Wing... A Leo takes out Wing Gundam in the first episode. Hardly the same thing as Gundam 00.If you want to talk about sucky mobile suits, it is the Zeta Gundam Barzam that takes the prize. It is a cool-looking, high spec mobile suit that is only ever seen being blown up in massive numbers. The high point of that suit's career is when one draws a beam saber, right before being blown up. They don't even ever take shots at anything.Gundam Wing is hardly even comparable to UC Gundam... Certainly, there are a few similar elements (like comparing Releena and Zechs to Sayla and Char), but almost everything about the setting and story being told is fundamentally different.The very role of Lelouch is what makes it original. Other than that, it does borrow a lot of elements from shows like Full Metal Panic, Death Note, and Gundam SEED, and its real success is its raw quality of execution, rather than pure originality. Quality and originality are not the same thing at all, after all.I don't really think this is related to what I am talking about. There is a raw quality difference, and I can point out specific lines, characterizations, and scene structures where Gundam 00 is simply bad, regardless of what I have seen before. I am not saying that I don't like it because it is similar to stuff I have seen before. Actually, I like what I see and have hope for the series because it is handling stuff I have seen before in new and potentially interesting ways. However, it just has been wasting that potential so far.To make an analogy... I don't dislike Gundam SEED Destiny because it is a blatant retread of many elements of Zeta Gundam's plot, I dislike it because, unlike Zeta Gundam, they failed to keep the focus on the new hero (Camille/Shin) and instead broke the narrative apart by trying to keep three different characters in the limelight at the same time. Well, there were other problems too, but that is the biggest. It is not like Zeta Gundam escapes criticism because I saw it first and it was original at the time (the Rosamie subplot was terrible, and the Jerid subplot was not resolved properly).That is good to hear. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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