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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5377188" data-attributes="member: 65637">What?  My point is that guns don't change the entire world just by existing.  This only proves my point.You...you can't take my argument and suddenly claim it as your own when you end up being wrong.  Debate doesn't work that way.First off I'm breaking this into multiple points because goddamn son, paragraphs.Because then rulership is no longer based on heredity, which was an absolutely enormous part of medieval life and what kept the class structure so tightly wound up in the first place.  Changing that to a meritocracy changes a lot.That's...that's not how warfare works.  That's never how warfare worked.  not even on the "mythical" level.  Jesus, come on.I don't even know what your point is at this point.  You are literally babbling.Then - just as my point stated - medieval warfare collapses.Not the changes people like to think it brought about.  not the changes listed in this very thread, where people stated "I don't have guns because I like having knights."You can talk to God in D&D.  Are you really going to tell me that would have no effect at all in a medieval world?  I mean hell, you literally just eliminated religious warfare.  There's no question on who's god exists and who's doesn't.  In fact, there's no moral ambiguity at all!  "Hey those guys on the other side of the desert worship a different god, let's...!  Wait, detect alignment says their clerics are good aligned.  Hey, God?  Is everything chill there?  It is?  Ok, yeah, we cool."Once again, you are arguing my point for me, that guns would not have the huge social changes people think they do.</blockquote>

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