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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 3967786" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>LOL, exactly! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I'm happy with gunpowder being used in specific places, like Spelljammer, or a home brew setting, but in most campaigns, it would be suicide to carry around gunpowder.</p><p></p><p>Also, do most folk know gunpowder is one of the few materials that can spontaneously ignite, thus it used ot blow ships and magazines up (and sitll makes firework factories explode, along with the threat of spilled powder)?</p><p></p><p>WHat I did for homebrew, was to design a magically powered gun, like a large pistol, firing solid bronze or copper bolts from a magazine, powered by Telekinesis or similar effects.</p><p>That keeps magic, avoids gunpowder, but is expensive, so is kept to adventurers, rich folk etc.</p><p>Was toying with making a prestige class of wizard gunslingers, who speicialized in using/recharging/making them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, just make have all the non-rifled guns take a -5 to hit penalty (or worse) they were EXTREMELY innacurate. Even in the Cowboy era, folk frequently missed up close with rifled pistols because the weapon quality was poor and the users crap. The Cowboy myths are wrong, firing in anger = "buck fever extreme" so you miss, hence most folk with a brain used shotguns or rifles <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Also to most folk, pistols were useless, you can't hunt game with them, and were more expensive than a comparison shotgun, and had terrible range versus a rifle. Only a very few users were actually good with pistols, which were probably <em>more </em> accurate than all the older weapons.</p><p></p><p>Not all the older guns were rubbish, but fine ones cost a serious fortune. Thus using anything other than say, a wheelock/flintlock pistol point blank, should be suicidal in D&D <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 3967786, member: 19083"] LOL, exactly! ;) I'm happy with gunpowder being used in specific places, like Spelljammer, or a home brew setting, but in most campaigns, it would be suicide to carry around gunpowder. Also, do most folk know gunpowder is one of the few materials that can spontaneously ignite, thus it used ot blow ships and magazines up (and sitll makes firework factories explode, along with the threat of spilled powder)? WHat I did for homebrew, was to design a magically powered gun, like a large pistol, firing solid bronze or copper bolts from a magazine, powered by Telekinesis or similar effects. That keeps magic, avoids gunpowder, but is expensive, so is kept to adventurers, rich folk etc. Was toying with making a prestige class of wizard gunslingers, who speicialized in using/recharging/making them. :) Actually, just make have all the non-rifled guns take a -5 to hit penalty (or worse) they were EXTREMELY innacurate. Even in the Cowboy era, folk frequently missed up close with rifled pistols because the weapon quality was poor and the users crap. The Cowboy myths are wrong, firing in anger = "buck fever extreme" so you miss, hence most folk with a brain used shotguns or rifles ;) Also to most folk, pistols were useless, you can't hunt game with them, and were more expensive than a comparison shotgun, and had terrible range versus a rifle. Only a very few users were actually good with pistols, which were probably [I]more [/I] accurate than all the older weapons. Not all the older guns were rubbish, but fine ones cost a serious fortune. Thus using anything other than say, a wheelock/flintlock pistol point blank, should be suicidal in D&D :p [/QUOTE]
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