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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3451878" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Meh, I don't like making guns into touch attacks. Why in the Nine Hells do my Bracers of Armor +6 not stop a bullet, when they can sometimes deflect a boulder hurled by a giant? Why does a dragon's hide, tougher than any steel, and granting +30 natural armor or somesuch, prove completely useless in protecting it from guns? Do guns shoot holes through a titan's suit of three-inch-thick +5 adamantine full plate armor?</p><p></p><p>(quick edit: this means, in other words, that the houserule you're considering would result in armies of rookies being equipped with guns, and then killing dragons rather quickly since there is no reliance on magic, allowing lots of rookie soldiers to be equipped with mass-produced weapons that pierce dragonhide like paper; and dragons have such abysmal AC from mediocre Dex and nasty size penalties that a rookie has no problem hitting them with a mere touch attack.)</p><p></p><p>I'd understand a little armor-penetrating quality, but not ignoring or significantly reducing the effectiveness of every dang thing around. If they're going to be touch attacks, they may as well ignore object hardness too, and any creature's damage reduction, since they apparently blow holes through anything they hit as though it were a wet sheet of paper. :\ And if they're that bloody powerful, they may as well be one-hit kill shots any time they score a critical, since they'll obviously put a gaping hole through the heart, kidneys, lungs, brain, throat, major arteries, or whatever other critical hit location they manage to strike.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3451878, member: 13966"] Meh, I don't like making guns into touch attacks. Why in the Nine Hells do my Bracers of Armor +6 not stop a bullet, when they can sometimes deflect a boulder hurled by a giant? Why does a dragon's hide, tougher than any steel, and granting +30 natural armor or somesuch, prove completely useless in protecting it from guns? Do guns shoot holes through a titan's suit of three-inch-thick +5 adamantine full plate armor? (quick edit: this means, in other words, that the houserule you're considering would result in armies of rookies being equipped with guns, and then killing dragons rather quickly since there is no reliance on magic, allowing lots of rookie soldiers to be equipped with mass-produced weapons that pierce dragonhide like paper; and dragons have such abysmal AC from mediocre Dex and nasty size penalties that a rookie has no problem hitting them with a mere touch attack.) I'd understand a little armor-penetrating quality, but not ignoring or significantly reducing the effectiveness of every dang thing around. If they're going to be touch attacks, they may as well ignore object hardness too, and any creature's damage reduction, since they apparently blow holes through anything they hit as though it were a wet sheet of paper. :\ And if they're that bloody powerful, they may as well be one-hit kill shots any time they score a critical, since they'll obviously put a gaping hole through the heart, kidneys, lungs, brain, throat, major arteries, or whatever other critical hit location they manage to strike. [/QUOTE]
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