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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Advilaar" data-source="post: 5994866" data-attributes="member: 6698911">The reason we did it vs reflex (ranged touch in 3e) was a kind of way to deal with the uselessness of armor. However, force armor such as the 3e bracers could help with bullets. We eventually had to go with an armor piercing rating, because as the war became more deadly with all these caster guns out there, only a fool would show up in plate. You needed battle golem armors and liberal contingent walls of force. i needed a way to deal with folks encased in adamantium battle mechs. Our campaign got pretty wild, though. They started making bullets of spellstoring and the like. If firearms were not enough, imagine bullets with meteor swarm on them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. Or nukes coated with 3e anti magic shell to pierce through foce domes over enemy cities<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. 4e toned that stuff way down, though. Just to give you an idea how wild, think epic great wyrms with class levels with magic armor with special cockpits for orc machine gunners <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I doubt your sounds that crazy. Good luck.</blockquote>

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