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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7560927" data-attributes="member: 6802951">I think its likely that the shot grouping at 50 yards that they are talking about is under ideal conditions such as shooting at a target whist aiming, rather than an effective range in a firefight. The fact that the bullets retain killing power over much longer distances doesn't change the fact that trying to hit an actively avoiding target whilst on the run, on horseback, ducking behind cover, or otherwise actively trying to avoid getting shot yourself reduces the effective range of a pistol to considerably less than the theoretical maximum.I'm not saying that you personally wouldn't be reliably disabling a human at 50m with a pistol in the middle of a running battle. But for the average person, who may or may not have had military training and is likely panicking a little about being at real risk of death if they stand still long enough to take good aim, I'm still going to go with the 20m effective range.</blockquote>