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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 1645563" data-attributes="member: 319">Disclaimer: My point is not that I'm an amazing individual, and I don't want to come across as absurdly egotistical. The point I am trying to make is that the GURPS system presents a silly idea of what constitutes a truly exceptional person.Actually, according to the formula they have for calculating lifting capacity, I have 14 STR. If I only had 11 DEX and 12 IQ, that's 100 points already... And I don't have a 12 IQ, I'm smarter than I'm strong or athletic. I definitely don't have any cinematic advantages, but I would qualify for Language Talent and probably a level of Artificer (talent with mechanical things and crafts). That's 20 points or so in mundane advantages.Let's say I also have only 10 points worth of skills (not likely). Disadvantages... First of all, you overstate your case and misreprsent things. Compulsive honesty is a GURPS disdvantage - not simply obeying the law in an everyday sort of way... Constantly worrying about your family to the point of distraction would be another one - but not simply being willing to do things to protect and help your family that any regular person would.Not being psychotic, schizoid or compulisve, I don't have any mental GURPS disadvantages at more than quirk levels, and my only physical disadvantage at a non-quirk level is Overweight. But let's assume for the sake of argument I actually have -30 points of disadvantages, because I'm not being objective.It puts me at 100 points, at a bare minimum.  You don't start at a particular age in GURPS, so that argument means nothing. You can be a starting 16 year old character, or a 36 year old one. I haven't had any adventures I can think of, so whatever I'm at is my "starting value." "Built and designed character"? What does that mean? Built for what, gladiatorial combat?  The system most certainly does not assume all characters are combat optimized, in fact, the 4th edition seems to try to discourage that.Sure, a 150 point soldier would eat me for breakfast. So what? I'm not the killing machine in this party  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  - I'm the ex-jock who's slowed down a bit from sitting enough in the lab all day, but can still handle himself and knows how to use a gun well if it comes to that. There you go, an instant character for a modern day X-Files type game.150 points is NOT hero-material - it's enough to make an incredibly effective specialist, or an above average character with a diverse background. GURPS is so easy to min-max and break, it ends up making balanced characters absurdly weak for what they're supposed to be.</blockquote>

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