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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tauton_ikhnos" data-source="post: 1645580" data-attributes="member: 16195">Henry, as far as overestimation goes, I think it's not so much a matter as overestimating themselves, and underestimating what a given number in the system means. That, and once you've established that you are above average (who isn't?), it is very difficult to put a precise number on how above average you are.I usually put it like this:8 = the bottom feeders of humanity9-10 = most of half of the population10 = split evenly between the category above and below10-11 = most of half of the population12 = the top 10% of the population13 = the top 1% of the population14 = rare folks indeed15 = cinematicI am therefore constantly surprised by how many folks put themselves at a 13, 14 or 15. Especially since most folks are better represented with talents and skills, and/or buying down Perception or Will or Move.(And ST is an exception, as is already noted in the GURPS Lite document)For myself, I'm an 11 IQ, 12 DEX, crap for ST and HT. Granted, I'm probably at the top end of 11 IQ, and I would almost certainly buy my Will to a 13 (yes, that's my ego in my pocket), but most tests put me a hair outside of the top 10%. I usually hit the top 15%.That puts me at about 70 points, which t'ain't bad, before skills and disads.</blockquote>