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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaester" data-source="post: 3560819" data-attributes="member: 44384">Thanks every one for the post.As I said before, I had Downloaded Gurps lite, however, I do not find it that impressive because it focuses mainly on the rules and does not give to many options for character creation. However, I am not going to judge gurps based of this blurp.Yes, my players are stupid in there ways which dictates that anything non d2o is not worth the paper it is printed on, but having played D&D and d20 for so long, I am just burned out completely. Unlike other games I have tried to get them to play and failed, I see a opening with gurps because of the seccess of BESM which uses the same point buy system but with d20. I am hoping that will give me the lee-way to squeese a good one shot gurps campaign off to get my players interested.One of the big turn off my players had was playing games like WoD and Shadow Run which implement the use of millions of d10s and d6s respectively. the idea of adding up tons of dice was boring unless it was a roll of a epic fireball or a flurry of greatsword cleaving through a opponent. Another aspect of games they did not like, was the inability to have a large amount of control when customizing characters. Most games made the Pcs feel like cookie cutters only having a single set of abilites, although I personally thought that skills made two of the same class very different, along with equipment. As far as the most realistic for combat? I say Palladium. Maybe I am biased, but S.D.C before HP damage had a real easy conversion rate for wanting to cut off limbs along with a easy to do/hard to secceed ways for 'auto death' (Choking, Cut throat, ect.) Looking on Amazon.com, I found that GURPS basic was $11 dollars used. Will this get me a decent amount of races/Customization stuff?Thanks foe posting every one. ---Rusty</blockquote>

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