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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SorvahrSpahr" data-source="post: 2963665" data-attributes="member: 41950">I totally agree. We should give the benefict of the doubt to new players. but it's always better to "test" the newcomer before letting him in the campaign. Our current ninja is a great exemple. She played a cleric (she cast a light while we were fighting an undead...), a fighter (not bad, but she has really poor luck with the dice, and I'm starting to think that she doesn't pick feats) a barbarian half-orc (the best character yet, although not brilliant) and the ninja .... oh my god the ninja...she wanted to read the library's registry book in order to see if the guy the party was chasing had been there. So she waits for the coast to be clear, uses ghost step, and picks up the book, sits in a corner near the employe's room, and starts reading. Obviously panic arrived when the registry lady saw the book floating a few centrimetres above ground... We have explained to her how to pick skills, feats, how to roll for hp, how to grapple, everything. We're not an experient party. We have few years of practice, and no-one taught us how to play, we had a few hints from our dm former DM and that was all. But she still makes the same mistakes. She calculated the ki power like this (1/2 chara lvl + wisdom check). She used to get her hp by hd+b.a.b. Our dm almost went crazy with her</blockquote>