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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RandomUsernamehmimo71" data-source="post: 1725938" data-attributes="member: 9051">To be honest, that's frustrating to me.. When people make claims like that they often mean that they are going to assume that whomever is disagreeing with them is not using scientific fact, or is reasoning on emotion.It's also dishonest-Your entire last paragraph is about your wife fitting your ideas of feminity.. That is not scientific observation, that is anecdotal.Do be scientific (your word), you need to use the empirical method. Looking at a large number of people, as in the studies you mentioned, is valid. Your family is, and I mean this with no disrespect, irrelevant to this discussion entirely. I don't think anyone, Kemrain included, would argue that there are no differences between men any women. There are observable differences, which can be seen over a population.  Threaded response follows-Well.. No. 'Society' doesn't say anything. Some people within a society might say things.It may seem like a trivial argument, but it makes a difference. You're trying to make an argument that this the overwhelming belief of a large populace, which I would disagree with. Note the failure to pass of the Equal Rights Amendment.Two points- One, I would appreciate if you could name your source. By leaving it unnamed, and unreferenced, you are presenting an argument which is hidden. I'm sure it's unintentional, but it would be difficult to discuss a unnamed study.No, she can't. Read what I said earlier about anecdotes. But I understand your argument. Unfortunately, what I don't think you are looking at is two-fold; I feel you are ignoring the influence of society and culture on what the children will use. As you have not quoted a specific study, I can't comment on it directly, but I would ask that you consider the question of which toy a child is likely to use, one she has been raised with, or an unfamiliar one?Admittedly unscientific, but again, it's hard to discuss things in generalities. Again, I agree. And I think Kemrain does as well. Again, as she mentioned, there are biological differences, and adaptations which encourage this. I myself would quote an unnamed study; Forgive me, Google is failing me, but given that the study seems to support the body of your argument, I can't see while you would object.It is clear that women tend to live longer than men on average. It is argues and reasoned that one of the reasons is that grandmothers are more important evolutionarily, than grandfathers are. There are differences, and I wouldn't disagree with them; I'm not trying to defend Kemrain, but I would argue she would as well. In her post, she acknowledges that there are differences, but that they are minor. I would point out that the difference between a male human and a female human is a lot less than a male orc and a male elf!This is the same straw-man argument you've been using the whole time..No one has argued that there is no difference between the two, they've argued that there is little inherent difference between the mental states of the two.Inherent difference, being the word I'd like to emphasize, as it would be easy to skip over.There is a difference between men and women. If there wasn't, no one would find difficulty in role-playing them, and this topic would not be useful or interesting.What she is saying is that, and I'll quote And again, I'll agree. Look at the difference in culture between people of different parts of the world; there are some similarities, and many differences. It's not entirely unlikely that whatever fantasy world you are in may have different ideas of feminity.Just thoughts.-Colin</blockquote>

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