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<blockquote data-quote="BiggusGeekus" data-source="post: 2804575" data-attributes="member: 1014"><p>Quoted for truth.</p><p></p><p>A lot of these min/max'd characters don't have to slog through the levels of the game. So if you have an uber character that shines at 7th level, you still have to go through 6 levels of being not much.</p><p></p><p>Another problem is that these characters in 3e can be one-trick ponys. 3e has that wacky saving throw progression going on. So you can pretty much always beat a wizard by lobbing some anti-Fortitude stuff at him and fighters still have to make a poor will save. My favorite example is the build where a fighter specializes in attacks of opportunity with a spiked chain. It looks pretty nasty, until you actually play the character and he has to make a will save or fight ranged opponents or do anything other than fight in melee with a spiked chain.</p><p></p><p>Another problem with some of these builds is that the require set up. Psionic Warrior is a great example. Sure, he can completely own in combat as long as he has time to set up his powers. If he can't do that, he's just a nifty guy who is no more powerful than anyone else in the group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BiggusGeekus, post: 2804575, member: 1014"] Quoted for truth. A lot of these min/max'd characters don't have to slog through the levels of the game. So if you have an uber character that shines at 7th level, you still have to go through 6 levels of being not much. Another problem is that these characters in 3e can be one-trick ponys. 3e has that wacky saving throw progression going on. So you can pretty much always beat a wizard by lobbing some anti-Fortitude stuff at him and fighters still have to make a poor will save. My favorite example is the build where a fighter specializes in attacks of opportunity with a spiked chain. It looks pretty nasty, until you actually play the character and he has to make a will save or fight ranged opponents or do anything other than fight in melee with a spiked chain. Another problem with some of these builds is that the require set up. Psionic Warrior is a great example. Sure, he can completely own in combat as long as he has time to set up his powers. If he can't do that, he's just a nifty guy who is no more powerful than anyone else in the group. [/QUOTE]
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