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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Autumnal" data-source="post: 9510032" data-attributes="member: 6671663">Mythic underworld concepts were definitely in the air in the mid to late 1970s, but I will be darned if I can think of specific sources now. As you say, [USER=7045072]@Gus L[/USER] , it wasn’t Gaga’s or Arneson…maybe someone like Ed Simbalist? Anyone got a 1st or 2nd edition Chivalry & Sorcery to check? Definitely M.A.R. Barker, though o don’t recall if he used the term “mythic” in particular; certainly the underworlds beneath Tekumelani cities were extraordinary. A related conversation was going on in fantasy at the same time, thanks to folks like Moorcock, Leiber, Vance, Bryant, and Harrison (M. John, not Harry) poking at when and how to get down with their own bad mythologizing selves. Not to mention the Silmarillion coming out and making eyes at us all.</blockquote>